THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SilverEagle » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:52 am

Who would've thought that we, Gen X, would be the ones to put the breaks on cultural revolution. 2008 did suck. My twins were not even a year old when I lost my job in early 2009 that I worked for years trying to get. Fortunately my boss liked me and I got rehired 10 months later at a higher position but unfortunately that did not play out for most people.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:55 am

So you're claiming that globalization = cultural revolution? I don't follow. At all.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by kybkh » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:56 am

Our people are miserable is this is why they are dying out. Conservatives shut the door on the world, go back to work, pay their taxes and grumble to let off steam, then do nothing. Leftists find their Utopia empty, and redouble their efforts. No one is happy with the situation, but because they are atomized by social isolation, they engage in “compensatory” behaviors or those which make the individual feel better about the world rather than attempting to change it.

Nowhere has this hit harder than with Generation X. Growing up as “latch-key kids” who were the products of divorce and social breakdown, Generation X realized that they were going to be adults in a world without social order. They could rely on nothing, were targets of predatory business and government, and saw that their society was entirely without future. They retaliated with a dropout culture that matured into total rejection of society and a desire to destroy it.

The result is a nation ready to split in half, with one side belonging to the Left and the rest for the realists. The realists will identify the following as the fatal flaws of liberal democracy that have shaped the lives of Generation X and made them detest society:


http://www.truthjustice.net/politics/a- ... alt-right/
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by kybkh » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:57 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:So you're claiming that globalization = cultural revolution? I don't follow. At all.

Watch a couple of John Wayne movies and get back to me about that question...
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by kybkh » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:06 am

Kellyanne looks more and more impressive...

In the late 1990s, Kellyanne Conway, then known by her maiden name, Kellyanne Fitzpatrick, was a media fellow with the Hoover Institution, where she studied cultural trends and the defining features of Generation X. In a 1997 roundtable discussion on Generation X, she described the group as having "a sort of quiet revolution about them." She went on to say, "It's a latent conservatism but it's [sic] also is libertarianism. If I could choose five words to define the generation it actually would be tolerant, multi-cultural ... entrepreneurial ... Libertarian and self-reliant. With self-reliant slash Internet because it's all really, we've to find some way to harness all that into this idea that they're not going to, they're unanchored to every institution."[6]

She also published on the kinds of politicians who appeal to younger voters. In 1998, she wrote:[7]

“ [Young people] are holding out for a hero who shows them that it is worth their time and energy to vote. For Generation X, it's not a question of 'For whom should I vote?' but 'Why should I vote?' A strong position on the issues is the cost of admission for any candidate who wishes to appeal to Generation X. On top of that, of course, is the right combination of message, messenger, and delivery style. But there's no magical formula for winning the votes of Generation Xers. They aren't single-issue voters, and they don't favor the same type of candidate every time. Candidates have to bring a great deal to the table to attract these voters--they have to show them what they believe in, what they want to do, and how they plan to do it.[8] ”



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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:14 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:I don't think there can exist a third party for very long the way our government is setup. There really can exist an equilibrium with only two parties.

With the corruption of the establishment, I understand why people wanted a third party, but I think in hindsight the only viable strategy was taking over one of the parties and letting the other die.

But what concerns me now is not so much the corruption but the degeneracy that has taken hold of the left. It doesn't matter how you look at this, this many batshit crazy, hateful people is a bad thing for any nation.
....you want to run a democracy with ONE political party? You understand why that doesn't work, right?

Uh.. no.

What happened in American history when a political party died out?

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:21 am

kybkh wrote:Our people are miserable is this is why they are dying out. Conservatives shut the door on the world, go back to work, pay their taxes and grumble to let off steam, then do nothing. Leftists find their Utopia empty, and redouble their efforts. No one is happy with the situation, but because they are atomized by social isolation, they engage in “compensatory” behaviors or those which make the individual feel better about the world rather than attempting to change it.

Nowhere has this hit harder than with Generation X. Growing up as “latch-key kids” who were the products of divorce and social breakdown, Generation X realized that they were going to be adults in a world without social order. They could rely on nothing, were targets of predatory business and government, and saw that their society was entirely without future. They retaliated with a dropout culture that matured into total rejection of society and a desire to destroy it.

The result is a nation ready to split in half, with one side belonging to the Left and the rest for the realists. The realists will identify the following as the fatal flaws of liberal democracy that have shaped the lives of Generation X and made them detest society:


http://www.truthjustice.net/politics/a- ... alt-right/
Great article, I liked that one...
This part stood out to me:
Make-Work. Beyond women in the workforce, the onslaught of unions and affirmative action resulted in all jobs being subdivided into detachable parts, like the “cogs” of industrial revolution lore made even more isolated and boring. People attend jobs more than work to an end, and spend most of their time cleaning up after other people, which penalizes the intelligent and makes them angry, vengeful and controlling.
I'm still not on-board with connecting the Alt-Right to these issues, but at least the author identified the underlying issues in our society.
Honestly - I still have no idea what 'alt-right' actually means or stands for, other than Tea Party freakouts.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by PartyOf5 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:38 am

kybkh wrote:Our people are miserable is this is why they are dying out. Conservatives shut the door on the world, go back to work, pay their taxes and grumble to let off steam, then do nothing. Leftists find their Utopia empty, and redouble their efforts. No one is happy with the situation, but because they are atomized by social isolation, they engage in “compensatory” behaviors or those which make the individual feel better about the world rather than attempting to change it.

Nowhere has this hit harder than with Generation X. Growing up as “latch-key kids” who were the products of divorce and social breakdown, Generation X realized that they were going to be adults in a world without social order. They could rely on nothing, were targets of predatory business and government, and saw that their society was entirely without future. They retaliated with a dropout culture that matured into total rejection of society and a desire to destroy it.

The result is a nation ready to split in half, with one side belonging to the Left and the rest for the realists. The realists will identify the following as the fatal flaws of liberal democracy that have shaped the lives of Generation X and made them detest society:


http://www.truthjustice.net/politics/a- ... alt-right/
That's dark.

Edit: Just read the entire article. The author made some valid points, but some of it was too generalized(?).
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by The Conservative » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:43 am

PartyOf5 wrote:
kybkh wrote:Our people are miserable is this is why they are dying out. Conservatives shut the door on the world, go back to work, pay their taxes and grumble to let off steam, then do nothing. Leftists find their Utopia empty, and redouble their efforts. No one is happy with the situation, but because they are atomized by social isolation, they engage in “compensatory” behaviors or those which make the individual feel better about the world rather than attempting to change it.

Nowhere has this hit harder than with Generation X. Growing up as “latch-key kids” who were the products of divorce and social breakdown, Generation X realized that they were going to be adults in a world without social order. They could rely on nothing, were targets of predatory business and government, and saw that their society was entirely without future. They retaliated with a dropout culture that matured into total rejection of society and a desire to destroy it.

The result is a nation ready to split in half, with one side belonging to the Left and the rest for the realists. The realists will identify the following as the fatal flaws of liberal democracy that have shaped the lives of Generation X and made them detest society:


http://www.truthjustice.net/politics/a- ... alt-right/
That's dark.

No, this is dark.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by kybkh » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:52 am

Future of Congressional Conservatives Republican pollster Fitzpatrick (Kellyanne Conway) speculated about the fate of conservative members of Congress in the 1996 elections. She discussed affirmative action, Generation X voters, and other topics.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?66800-1/f ... servatives
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