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Post by C-Mag » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:54 am

Trump is the most investigated and vetted POTUS in history. He faced down the Washington swamp, all the intelligence agencies, was investigated for 3 years and came out clean.

Should we make all presidents endure the Trump treatment ? If so, we should immediately open counterintelligence investigations into all the candidates.

Caught a CSpan show last night from 2/20/2019, they had a panel of learned academics, historians, authors and professors at SMU talking about the history of impeachment. It was really a pep rally for how they were going to impeach Trump and an opportunity to talk about how Trump was worse than Nixon. They even went so far as to state their fear that when Trump was impeached he wouldn't step down and there would be 15,000 armed deplorables in Washington ensuring Trump stayed in the Whitehouse.

These people are fucking crazy.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:55 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:31 am
So what you are saying is collusion is the only crime that should be investigated?
No. It should not have been investigated. So what if the Russian government offered Trump the truth about Clinton's crimes? Why wouldn't he want to know the truth? How is trying to uncover high crimes of political officials a crime?

And if "colluding" with the Russians should be a crime, then why are not people demanding Hillary Clinton be indicted for colluding with Russian intelligence to concoct this fake intelligence in the first place??

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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:58 am

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:54 am
Should we make all presidents endure the Trump treatment ? If so, we should immediately open counterintelligence investigations into all the candidates.
That's the Washington Witch Hunt, everybody does it, it's all in the game, always has been.

Dirty tricks is what politics is all about. Then you try to out the other guy's dirty tricks.

It's like Hockey. You dive to get the power play, you cross check people when the ref is looking the other way
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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:00 am

Just don't get caught. As in hockey; instigate, don't retaliate.

The Trump campaign instigated, now the Democucks are retaliating, but it's backfiring, it's going nowhere.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:08 am

The trap the Democucks have put themselves in, is that in the American Religion, sore losers trying overthrow the results of an election by some other means than another election, never prosper. The electorate invariably punishes them.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:11 am

Even the Nixon coup de tat.

That backfired mightily.

That just led straight to a Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrinch Great Silent Majority backlash.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:15 am

Trying to take Bill Clinton down, that backfired.

He was more popular than he had ever been, after he was impeached. 73% approval.

Triangulation ftw.
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Post by C-Mag » Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:16 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:58 am
C-Mag wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:54 am
Should we make all presidents endure the Trump treatment ? If so, we should immediately open counterintelligence investigations into all the candidates.
That's the Washington Witch Hunt, everybody does it, it's all in the game, always has been.

Dirty tricks is what politics is all about. Then you try to out the other guy's dirty tricks.

It's like Hockey. You dive to get the power play, you cross check people when the ref is looking the other way

I'm actually willing to accept that Trump, trained in bare knuckles politics of construction in NYC is just better at this shit than the DC elite.

Love him or hate him, you should respect him for what he's been able to do. Damn few people in this world could endure the investigations he has and come out on top.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:22 am

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:16 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:58 am
C-Mag wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:54 am
Should we make all presidents endure the Trump treatment ? If so, we should immediately open counterintelligence investigations into all the candidates.
That's the Washington Witch Hunt, everybody does it, it's all in the game, always has been.

Dirty tricks is what politics is all about. Then you try to out the other guy's dirty tricks.

It's like Hockey. You dive to get the power play, you cross check people when the ref is looking the other way

I'm actually willing to accept that Trump, trained in bare knuckles politics of construction in NYC is just better at this shit than the DC elite.

Love him or hate him, you should respect him for what he's been able to do. Damn few people in this world could endure the investigations he has and come out on top.
Trump is doing what Bill Clinton did.

Trump is actually running on the Democrats platform.

Constricting immigration and protectionism for the industrial heartland.

That's the Democrats base. Trump took it from them by stealing the traditional Democrat policies.

In his second term, Clinton ran as a tough on crime friendly to business de facto Republican.

Triangulation.
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Post by BjornP » Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:29 am

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2 ... al-issues/

https://news.gallup.com/poll/1675/most- ... oblem.aspx

Doesn't seem as if "Impeaching President Trump" is on anyone's list of national priorities, does it? What amazes me most of all about the Democrats continuing to dig up some impeachable dirt on Trump, is how little aware or interested in, they seem to be in readily and easily accessible statistical data like the above.
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