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Re: Russian trolls

Post by Montegriffo » Wed May 09, 2018 8:59 am

DrYouth wrote:Anyone heard of this documentary; "Active Measures"...

http://povmagazine.com/articles/view/re ... e-measures

Russian organized crime has been investing in Trump for years according to the documentary...
(since his Atlantic City bankruptcy)

He is a Russian asset, according to this...

The question is... How is that asset working out?

Maybe he backfires as an investment?
Pretty resounding ''meh'' from the Guardian and if they're not buying it no one is.
That there is so much to cover ultimately works against the film, however. In 112 dense minutes, Bryan shoehorns a crash-course timeline of 20th-century Russian politics, a granular analysis of an elaborate money-moving scheme, twinned short biographies of morally bankrupt men, a blow-by-blow account of how the White House was won and a hundred miniature tangents about Putin’s endless list of henchmen. As Bryan progresses into the present and trains his focus on the 2016 presidential election, he trots out some high-profile talking heads including Hillary Clinton and John McCain. But the sheer volume of experts buries a viewer under a fast-moving avalanche of names, dates and figures. This film’s greatest shortcoming also happens to be the Trump administration’s greatest strength: pile enough shocking scandals on top of one another and the public won’t know which one to keep an eye on. Just as every day brings some new surreal miscarriage of power, so too does Bryan cycle on to the next point of outrage every five or so minutes.


Though by the film’s conclusion, that outrage is the only thing he’s got. For all the mountains and mountains of evidence that Bryan has organized, it’s strictly circumstantial. As thorough as his reportage may be, this documentary was never going to be the thing to discover the smoking gun definitively proving Trump’s guilt. Without being able to break that news, the film can’t help but end on a note of inconsequentiality. More troubling still, Bryan compensates for the ebbing drama by ratcheting up the attack ad aesthetics (spooky inverse coloration, overtaxed musical cues, flurries of associative cross-cuts) to extremes approaching fear-mongering and paranoia-stoking.

The inherent limitations of this effort aside (and discounting the patent futility of persuading any current Trumpistas using a documentary that premiered in Canada, for God’s sake), Bryan’s done some good and noble work. But until investigative committees provide him with the final act of this story, the rest of us will just have to hold out for the pee tape.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/a ... n-meddling

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Re: Russian trolls

Post by DrYouth » Wed May 09, 2018 12:31 pm

So... a bad movie...

And not surprisingly... no firm conclusions...

But plenty of meaningful information as far as Trump not being the "self made businessman" he portrayed himself to be...

And some evidence that he is the recipient of Russian influence money... maybe just a money laundering scheme... but plenty of reason to keep exploring this angle.

I wouldn't say it should be dismissed.
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Re: Russian trolls

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed May 09, 2018 12:32 pm

I think the Russians are too smart to invest in Trump. Literally who does that? LOL

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Re: Russian trolls

Post by DrYouth » Wed May 09, 2018 12:54 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:I think the Russians are too smart to invest in Trump. Literally who does that? LOL
Money laundering gangsters aren't always the brightest...

Or maybe they are 9D chess geniuses...

Who really knows?
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Re: Russian trolls

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed May 09, 2018 1:01 pm

DrYouth wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:I think the Russians are too smart to invest in Trump. Literally who does that? LOL
Money laundering gangsters aren't always the brightest...

Or maybe they are 9D chess geniuses...

Who really knows?

Russian mob hires PhDs, dude.

That kind of crime is next level shit.

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Re: Russian trolls

Post by DrYouth » Wed May 09, 2018 4:19 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Russian mob hires PhDs, dude.

That kind of crime is next level shit.
I'm definitely more willing to entertain 9D chess from the Russians than from Trump...
Trump may very well be a Russian [pick your chess piece].
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