THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:01 pm

Kath wrote:Lol as if. :lol: I assure you that nobody told me to like the speech.
Well then your anti-Trump bias is so strong you'll see any speech he gives as dark, even his most upbeat, optimistic and unifying ones. Equally as pathetic, that means your anti-Trump bias is almost as strong as the mainsteam media's who have exactly the same reaction to any speech Trump gives.

But no you're not biased against Trump in any way, you're feelings about Trump are 100% neutral. You aren't prone to seeing him in an excessively negative light at all. :roll: :lol:
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by BjornP » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:31 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
BjornP wrote:Funny how "The Press" apparantly is this one thing, this one, single entity. It's a bit like arguing against "The Government"'s Obamacare, or "The Government"'s building of The Wall. Sure, it's "the government" enacting those things, but... Trump is not Obama because both are "the government". One ought to mentally consider that the same applies even less to the "The Press".
Uh huh,

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Oh, that's a representative montage of all the headlines of all the news sites in the US? Faaaaascinating, Okee.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:37 pm

Dozens of major publications all perpetuating the same narrative, and you're saying it doesn't mean anything unless every single outlet says it. If one paper goes against the narrative, then there's no collusion.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by BjornP » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:49 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:Dozens of major publications all perpetuating the same narrative, and you're saying it doesn't mean anything unless every single outlet says it. If one paper goes against the narrative, then there's no collusion.

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And of the minor publications? Collusion? The "dark" thing was a buzzword. Journalism these days pick up buzzwords like the rest of us pick up memes. Expecting they're all cooperating in some sort of big, elaborate conspiracy is given them some extremely large credit. And yeah, all those major publications write what they write... they are not "The Press". They are part of the press, just like SJW's are not "the People", they are part of the people.
And yes, if even one paper does not "collude" as you say, it makes no sense to say that "the press/media" was working against Trump. Breitbart's the media too, remember?

Not that I get why on earth it's even a bad thing they did that. If the press doesn't criticize the powerful, no matter who they are, it may as well form into one giant state controlled North Korea-like propaganda machine for the state. Fucking weaklings needing safe spaces left and right.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:03 pm

These reporters and networks have been named in the WikiLeaks to have colluded with the DNC or Hillary campaign during the 2016 election cycle:

ABC – Cecilia Vega
ABC - David Muir
ABC – Diane Sawyer
ABC – George Stephanoplous
ABC – Jon Karl
ABC – Liz Kreutz
AP – Julie Pace
AP – Ken Thomas
AP – Lisa Lerer
AURN – April Ryan
Bloomberg – Jennifer Epstein
Bloomberg – John Heillman
Bloomberg/MSNBC – Jonathan Alter
Bloomberg – Mark Halperin
Buzzfeed – Ben Smith
Buzzfeed – Ruby Cramer
CBS – Gayle King
CBS – John Dickerson
CBS – Norah O'Donnell
CBS – Steve Chagaris
CBS – Vicki Gordon
CNBC – John Harwood
CNN – Brianna Keilar
CNN – Dan Merica
CNN – David Chailan
CNN – Erin Burnett
CNN – Gloria Borger
CNN – Jake Tapper
CNN – Jeff Zeleny
CNN - Jeff Zucker
CNN – John Berman
CNN – Kate Bouldan
CNN – Maria Cardona
CNN – Mark Preston
CNN – Sam Feist
Daily Beast – Jackie Kucinich
GPG – Mike Feldman
HuffPo – Amanda Terkel
HuffPo – Arianna Huffington
HuffPo – Sam Stein
HuffPo – Whitney Snyder
LAT – Evan Handler
LAT – Mike Memoli
McClatchy – Anita Kumar
MORE – Betsy Fisher Martin
MSNBC – Alex Seitz-Wald
MSNBC – Alex Wagner
MSNBC – Andrea Mitchell
MSNBC - Beth Fouhy
MSNBC – Ed Schultz
MSNBC – Joe Scarborough
MSNBC – Mika Brzezinski
MSNBC – Phil Griffin
MSNBC – Rachel Maddow
MSNBC – Rachel Racusen
MSNBC – Thomas Roberts
National Journal – Emily Schultheis
NBC – Chuck Todd
NBC – Mark Murray
NBC – Savannah Gutherie
New Yorker – David Remnick
New Yorker – Ryan Liza
NPR – Mike Oreskes
NPR – Tamara Keith
NY Post – Geofe Earl
NYT – Amy Chozik
NYT – Carolyn Ryan
NYT – Gail Collins
NYT – John Harwoodje
NYT – Jonathan Martin
NYT – Maggie Haberman
NYT – Pat Healey
PBS – Charlie Rose
People – Sandra Sobieraj Westfall
Politico – Annie Karni
Politico – Gabe Debenedetti
Politico – Glenn Thrush
Politico – Kenneth Vogel
Politico – Mike Allen
Reuters – Amanda Becker
Tina Brown – Tina Brown
The Hill – Amie Parnes
Univision – Maria-Elena Salinas
Vice – Alyssa Mastramonoco
Vox – Jon Allen
WaPo – Anne Gearan
WaPo – Greg Sargent
WSJ – Laura Meckler
WSJ – Peter Nicholas
WSJ – Colleen McCain Nelson
Yahoo – Matt Bai
http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/media-collusion
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Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:04 pm

On Apr 6, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Jesse Ferguson <jesse@jesseferguson.com> wrote:

We wanted to make sure everyone on this email had the latest information on
the two upcoming dinners with reporters. Both are off-the-record.

1) Thursday night, April 9th at 7:00p.m. Dinner at the Home of John
Podesta. His address is 3743 Brandywine St NW in Washington, DC. This will
be with about 20 reporters who will closely cover the campaign (aka the
bus).

2) Friday night, April 10th at 6:30p.m. Cocktails and Hors D'oeuvre at
the Home of Joel Benenson. His home address is 60 E. 96th Street, #12B, New
York, 10128. This is with a broader universe of New York reporters.

We understand if it’s too hard to make it, not a big deal, but great if you
can.

Let me know if you have any questions.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/12063
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:04 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
These reporters and networks have been named in the WikiLeaks to have colluded with the DNC or Hillary campaign during the 2016 election cycle:

ABC – Cecilia Vega
ABC - David Muir
ABC – Diane Sawyer
ABC – George Stephanoplous
ABC – Jon Karl
ABC – Liz Kreutz
AP – Julie Pace
AP – Ken Thomas
AP – Lisa Lerer
AURN – April Ryan
Bloomberg – Jennifer Epstein
Bloomberg – John Heillman
Bloomberg/MSNBC – Jonathan Alter
Bloomberg – Mark Halperin
Buzzfeed – Ben Smith
Buzzfeed – Ruby Cramer
CBS – Gayle King
CBS – John Dickerson
CBS – Norah O'Donnell
CBS – Steve Chagaris
CBS – Vicki Gordon
CNBC – John Harwood
CNN – Brianna Keilar
CNN – Dan Merica
CNN – David Chailan
CNN – Erin Burnett
CNN – Gloria Borger
CNN – Jake Tapper
CNN – Jeff Zeleny
CNN - Jeff Zucker
CNN – John Berman
CNN – Kate Bouldan
CNN – Maria Cardona
CNN – Mark Preston
CNN – Sam Feist
Daily Beast – Jackie Kucinich
GPG – Mike Feldman
HuffPo – Amanda Terkel
HuffPo – Arianna Huffington
HuffPo – Sam Stein
HuffPo – Whitney Snyder
LAT – Evan Handler
LAT – Mike Memoli
McClatchy – Anita Kumar
MORE – Betsy Fisher Martin
MSNBC – Alex Seitz-Wald
MSNBC – Alex Wagner
MSNBC – Andrea Mitchell
MSNBC - Beth Fouhy
MSNBC – Ed Schultz
MSNBC – Joe Scarborough
MSNBC – Mika Brzezinski
MSNBC – Phil Griffin
MSNBC – Rachel Maddow
MSNBC – Rachel Racusen
MSNBC – Thomas Roberts
National Journal – Emily Schultheis
NBC – Chuck Todd
NBC – Mark Murray
NBC – Savannah Gutherie
New Yorker – David Remnick
New Yorker – Ryan Liza
NPR – Mike Oreskes
NPR – Tamara Keith
NY Post – Geofe Earl
NYT – Amy Chozik
NYT – Carolyn Ryan
NYT – Gail Collins
NYT – John Harwoodje
NYT – Jonathan Martin
NYT – Maggie Haberman
NYT – Pat Healey
PBS – Charlie Rose
People – Sandra Sobieraj Westfall
Politico – Annie Karni
Politico – Gabe Debenedetti
Politico – Glenn Thrush
Politico – Kenneth Vogel
Politico – Mike Allen
Reuters – Amanda Becker
Tina Brown – Tina Brown
The Hill – Amie Parnes
Univision – Maria-Elena Salinas
Vice – Alyssa Mastramonoco
Vox – Jon Allen
WaPo – Anne Gearan
WaPo – Greg Sargent
WSJ – Laura Meckler
WSJ – Peter Nicholas
WSJ – Colleen McCain Nelson
Yahoo – Matt Bai
http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/media-collusion

Time to wake up and get angry, kiddos.


Note that Chuck Todd, who is on that list, is one of the assholes getting all upset and offended on the air when the Trump administration dares to suggest the press is totally corrupt and dishonest.


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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:15 pm

Here's the thing..

Right now, all the evidence suggests Trump is the real thing. We have a guy in the White House who will represent us, the American people, no matter what the establishment or corporate-controlled press tries to do.

The man just flushed TPP down the fucking toilet on DAY ONE.

He has nothing to lose in carrying out the will of Americans and nothing really to gain by becoming a typical politician. These are his last years in life and he already has everything else. He's rich. He has a beautiful wife and kids. He's built a huge real estate empire.

Avail yourselves of this while you have the chance, kids, because you were just given the chance of a century.

Unless and until Trump becomes a total politician and reneges on his promises and starts doing shit that few Americans support (like passing TPP), you really need to pull your heads out of your asses and stop behaving like meat puppets for the fake MSM. The MSM is playing you for fools right now.

Maybe Trump will fuck it up. Maybe not. But, right here and now, he is delivering.

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Post by Penner » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:20 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Here's the thing..

Right now, all the evidence suggests Trump is the real thing. We have a guy in the White House who will represent us, the American people, no matter what the establishment or corporate-controlled press tries to do.

The man just flushed TPP down the fucking toilet on DAY ONE.

He has nothing to lose in carrying out the will of Americans and nothing really to gain by becoming a typical politician. These are his last years in life and he already has everything else. He's rich. He has a beautiful wife and kids. He's built a huge real estate empire.

Avail yourselves of this while you have the chance, kids, because you were just given the chance of a century.

Unless and until Trump becomes a total politician and reneges on his promises and starts doing shit that few Americans support (like passing TPP), you really need to pull your heads out of your asses and stop behaving like meat puppets for the fake MSM. The MSM is playing you for fools right now.

Maybe Trump will fuck it up. Maybe not. But, right here and now, he is delivering.
But wasn't the TPP was already on it's way out, before Trump took office?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by BjornP » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:24 pm

Aside from the fact that US journalism's issues are more than just partisanship, I'd say the only surprises and worries I have about that list are the AP contact and the Reuters contacts. Most TV journalism today is just reporting on news already made. Investigations, foreign correspondents cost money and because news have to come out fast, even they aren't going to get any time to research whatever they're sent to research. VICE usually do ok, but that's their niche. Something that was common for most TV news back in the day. Reuters and AP AFAIK provide alot of US news sites and TV channels with their original news, and so are more important than all those CNN and MSNBC folks.

I do not dispute that Clinton had alot of influence in MSM media. Never did. But "the press" is more than the MSM. Identifying "the press" as the villain is like identifying your Republic as the villain, or identifying the US constitution as the villain. The press may currently be.... sick, but it is still the press. Cure it, encourage it to become better, identify the cause of its ills and improve the conditions for it to change. Because you will forever need a collection of strong civic, non-governmental checks on both the power of the government and the bullshit your government will try and sell you.
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