America Ain’t That Great?

[Ph64]

You’d think as a practicing attorney & doctor, I would have some experience talking with clients & patients about what they want? Plus, I’ve been married to a woman for 40 years, and have grown daughters. It must be my Toxic Masculinity preventing me from knowing what women want.

Nope. In my experience most women don't really know what they want. Or, at least, since they base it more on emotions than men, it changes like the wind changes direction. You give them what they just said they wanted, and 5 minutes later when they discover it didn't satisfy their emotions, they want something else... and possibly are now upset you didn't read their minds and know what they "really wanted" in the first place.

Just my personal experience though, and honestly my "female selection" gene is broken and out for repair.

[Zlaxer]

Why are people like this elected in the US?

• Marxist infiltration of public schools

• Marxist infiltration of Courts

• Wealth Gap created by corporate corruption of DC

• The average person is an idiot - nothing short of eugenics will change that - it's easier for the stupid to breed - so they do

• Illegal immigration combined with voting fraud

Why did Rome and the Greek city states fail? Same shit over and over....

[BjornP]

The distinction between collectivism (military, healthcare, judiciary, environment, Welfare) and socialism is still not widely understood in America; it’s all still called socialism by The Right. However, Democrats are calling for real anti-Capitalist, State-owning Socialism.

Precisely. That’s also biggest difference between conservatives in Europe vs the same in the US. There is not the same tradition of support of (classical) liberalism (free speech, etc) among Europe's conservatives.

[Hastur]

It’s a fine line Hastur between unfettered capitalism that gave us the Rockefeller’s, Morgan’s, and Carnegie’s who made more money than the gov’t. And during the Depression those mostly phony WPA programs under Roosevelt kept money circulating and people from starving.

Capitalism knows no moderation. Capitalism devours anything and everyone just for the stock to go up a half a point. We still need a safety net that socialism can provide. We need socialism to maintain a military devoid of mercenary tyrants. Unfortunately our gov’t is purposely slow moving by the constitution where we are in the lightning fast digital world.

Those people in Silicon Valley aren’t doing this for the greater good. There’s nothing altruistic what they have wrought. So when the next proverbial “Triangle Street Fire” happens we will finally break them down into smaller pieces and new growth will take over old monopoly and oligopolies.

So yeah you definitely know and lived under Socialism far better than me, but in the US socialism is a boogey-man’s term unless it’s your last hope.

You don't need socialism for anything. A national military isn't socialism. Neither is public health insurance. Socialism is about ownership of the means of production, not public goods. The cure for rampant capitalism is proper regulation. Keeping corruption in check is equally important. Socialism doesn't give you any advantages in combatting corruption or protecting people and the environment from exploitation. Quite the opposite is true.

My apologies Hastur but in the US “Socialism” is a verb not so much an economic theory as I’ve apologized to BjornP as well.

There is no economic theorem that can function at 100% capacity without problems or issues. And proper regulation is impossible when the so called “capitalist” writes their own legislation. Corruption is in the headlines every single day, however if you’re just scrapping by, you kinda of too busy saving your own hide first and let someone else fight the corruption for you.

He’re an example. Sen. Mark Rubio (R-FL), if I wanted a Real Estate question answered whether its zoning, construction , buyer’s protections etc. he’s the lawyer I would hire. But let’s say foreign policy he relies upon lobbyists and his patrons to depend upon his “yes or nay” vote. If the people he relies on are corrupt isn’t his vote by extension corrupt?

So sure if we all played nice in the sandbox Capitalism may be the best way to go. However history dictates that we’re greedy hogs and will destroy the very places we love like a Capitalist would. Being suffocated by capitalism makes me kind of want to see if the grass is truly greener on the other side of the fence.

Once again my apologies.

Stop apologizing. No one's offended by what you say.

[Hastur]

[Montegriffo]

I'm slightly offended that Harry has on more than one occasion held up Old Speckled Hen to be some bastion of British beer when in fact it is a mass produced product with no understanding of ''purity laws''.
I await my apology...

[Speaker to Animals]

You’d think as a practicing attorney & doctor, I would have some experience talking with clients & patients about what they want? Plus, I’ve been married to a woman for 40 years, and have grown daughters. It must be my Toxic Masculinity preventing me from knowing what women want.

Nope. In my experience most women don't really know what they want. Or, at least, since they base it more on emotions than men, it changes like the wind changes direction. You give them what they just said they wanted, and 5 minutes later when they discover it didn't satisfy their emotions, they want something else... and possibly are now upset you didn't read their minds and know what they "really wanted" in the first place.

Just my personal experience though, and honestly my "female selection" gene is broken and out for repair.

Almost none of them really know what they want/need. What they think they want/need is almost never accurately what they want/need subconsciously, which is why increased freedom of choice for them leads to more unhappiness for them (demonstrable fact).

Further, they often are deliberately dishonest about what they think they want/need.

Without a man who realizes this and somehow manages to navigate the drama to guide them to the correct wants/needs, their only hope for happiness lies in the small probability that what they lie about what they think they want/need is what they really want/need but remain mostly unaware of it.

Most men in our society orient themselves to serving women and derive their self-worth from female approval rather than approval from worthy males (huge life mistake, btw). This is why we have legions of blue pull men consciously deciding to become the beta role (which is not natural for us) so that they can gain female approval by giving women what women say they want/need under the mistaken assumption that women generally possess the same kinds of self-awareness and judgment faculties as men.

In truth women are very different from us. Where we lack a lot of natural social and interpersonal skills, they lack these faculties I described. We need each other to really achieve some modest happiness in life, and when we fuck this all up, especially by assuming each sex is more or less the same, we only increase our unhappiness.

[Martin Hash]

I think self-awareness is the key? I can’t immediately see the connection between testosterone and self-awareness, but there must be one?

[Speaker to Animals]

I think self-awareness is the key? I can’t immediately see the connection between testosterone and self-awareness, but there must be one?

Not sure if it is hormonal or genetic behavior.

I suppose one could observe and subtly test women who compete in body building competition s, since they regularly use test drugs.

I would avoid trans people since they have serious psychological problems that would confound variables.

We have our own deficits too. It's easy to see women's deficits, but not so easy to see our own.

[Martin Hash]

Being raised a Mormon, I was taught that there were men & women in heaven, which would imply an innate gender difference. However, as a doctor I learned that male-female differences come from testosterone; want a woman to act like a man, shoot her up every day from puberty on, even later in life for things like aggression & ambition.

What do you religious folks believe?