Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:15 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
jediuser598 wrote:
I'm not for banning people from this country on the basis of religion, nor from banning the burning of the flag. I'm also not for genocide, as a general principle. Is that acknowledging reality or not acknowledging reality? I don't get what you're saying here.

Of course not. You are for whatever destroys western civilization.
Prove it.
You just quoted proof:

I'm not for banning people from this country on the basis of religion, nor from banning the burning of the flag.
You are for treating our nation and indeed our entire civilization like a God damned brothel for jihadis.

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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by jediuser598 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:19 pm

C-Mag wrote:
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C-Mag wrote: War is a separate issue IMO. I am open to the idea of Strategic Bombing and mass destruction of enemies land and population.
I support people that want to burn the flag, and the responsibility of those people to deal with the fallout.
Islam, is not just another religion, it's a political system knitted together with religion. I'm not for Eugenics or Genocide. I'm all for freedom of religion.
To put it simply:

Nuke the middle east?

Yay or nay?
:lol: No

You may not be familiar with my preferred US Foreign and Domestic Security policy. I'm a Classic Liberal, not a shit bag Progressive, Liberal, NeoCon, Conservative or Filthy Collectivist.
Sorry, lol.

I'm what has been termed as an ACLU liberal. I'm not all for what the ACLU does, but when it comes to civil liberties, I'm that. I'm also more for the second amendment than the NRA is, including giving gun rights back to felons, and not restricting gun rights for the mentally ill.

These people who want to ban on the basis of religion, or who want to "bash the fash" both sides really piss me off. You know we can't accomplish a whole lot if the nation is constantly fighting each other, people need to remember that we're all Americans.
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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by jediuser598 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:31 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
jediuser598 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

Of course not. You are for whatever destroys western civilization.
Prove it.
You just quoted proof:

I'm not for banning people from this country on the basis of religion, nor from banning the burning of the flag.
You are for treating our nation and indeed our entire civilization like a God damned brothel for jihadis.
Burning the flag is politically protected speech.

Texas v. Johnson

Feel free to read it yourself.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/491/397
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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by JohnDonne » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:32 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
jediuser598 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

Of course not. You are for whatever destroys western civilization.
Prove it.
You just quoted proof:

I'm not for banning people from this country on the basis of religion, nor from banning the burning of the flag.
You are for treating our nation and indeed our entire civilization like a God damned brothel for jihadis.
Just imagine a jihadi walking his four blondes on a leash to the dildo store, and you’ll get an idea of where we’re headed as a nation

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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by C-Mag » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:50 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
:lol: No

You may not be familiar with my preferred US Foreign and Domestic Security policy. I'm a Classic Liberal, not a shit bag Progressive, Liberal, NeoCon, Conservative or Filthy Collectivist.
Sorry, lol.

I'm what has been termed as an ACLU liberal. I'm not all for what the ACLU does, but when it comes to civil liberties, I'm that. I'm also more for the second amendment than the NRA is, including giving gun rights back to felons, and not restricting gun rights for the mentally ill.

These people who want to ban on the basis of religion, or who want to "bash the fash" both sides really piss me off. You know we can't accomplish a whole lot if the nation is constantly fighting each other, people need to remember that we're all Americans.

You need to check out Classic Liberalism brother..................................... with those opinions you could get sued by the ACLU of today for using their name. :lol:

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"Classical liberalism" is the term used to designate the ideology advocating private property, an unhampered market economy, the rule of law, constitutional guarantees of freedom of religion and of the press, and international peace based on free trade.


https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/clas ... ralism.htm
https://mises.org/library/what-classical-liberalism
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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by jediuser598 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:50 pm

JohnDonne wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
jediuser598 wrote:
Prove it.
You just quoted proof:

I'm not for banning people from this country on the basis of religion, nor from banning the burning of the flag.
You are for treating our nation and indeed our entire civilization like a God damned brothel for jihadis.
Just imagine a jihadi walking his four blondes on a leash to the dildo store, and you’ll get an idea of where we’re headed as a nation
Terrorism is already illegal in the United States.

If you want to ban walking four blondes on a leash to the dildo store, I mean, sure go for it. Not sure how far you'd get with that or how constitutional that would be.

If that's the worst the future has to offer though, I'd consider ourselves lucky.
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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by jediuser598 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:51 pm

C-Mag wrote:
jediuser598 wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
:lol: No

You may not be familiar with my preferred US Foreign and Domestic Security policy. I'm a Classic Liberal, not a shit bag Progressive, Liberal, NeoCon, Conservative or Filthy Collectivist.
Sorry, lol.

I'm what has been termed as an ACLU liberal. I'm not all for what the ACLU does, but when it comes to civil liberties, I'm that. I'm also more for the second amendment than the NRA is, including giving gun rights back to felons, and not restricting gun rights for the mentally ill.

These people who want to ban on the basis of religion, or who want to "bash the fash" both sides really piss me off. You know we can't accomplish a whole lot if the nation is constantly fighting each other, people need to remember that we're all Americans.

You need to check out Classic Liberalism brother..................................... with those opinions you could get sued by the ACLU of today for using their name. :lol:


"Classical liberalism" is the term used to designate the ideology advocating private property, an unhampered market economy, the rule of law, constitutional guarantees of freedom of religion and of the press, and international peace based on free trade.


https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/clas ... ralism.htm
https://mises.org/library/what-classical-liberalism
Basically, libertarian?
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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by C-Mag » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:56 pm

The difference between Libertarian and Classic Liberal is that Libertarians end up as Anarchists in the end. Rule of Law is much stronger in Classic Liberalism. I'm not talking Patriot Act, War on Drugs shit, but rule of law without Anarchy.
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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by jediuser598 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:00 pm

C-Mag wrote:The difference between Libertarian and Classic Liberal is that Libertarians end up as Anarchists in the end. Rule of Law is much stronger in Classic Liberalism. I'm not talking Patriot Act, War on Drugs shit, but rule of law without Anarchy.
Pretty much de facto anarchism, for libertarians. Their whole system is "if I don't agree with a law, I shouldn't have to be subjected to it." Meaning that in any of their systems, at all, if one person objects to a law, it cannot be passed. That makes any government above say, 20 people, impossible. (could be more, but you know what I mean. May work on a small scale but not large) De Facto anarchism, for sure.

Unhampered free market economies don't really work. For example, how do you have a stock market if you don't ban insider trading?
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Re: Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

Post by C-Mag » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:04 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
C-Mag wrote:The difference between Libertarian and Classic Liberal is that Libertarians end up as Anarchists in the end. Rule of Law is much stronger in Classic Liberalism. I'm not talking Patriot Act, War on Drugs shit, but rule of law without Anarchy.
Pretty much de facto anarchism, for libertarians. Their whole system is "if I don't agree with a law, I shouldn't have to be subjected to it." Meaning that in any of their systems, at all, if one person objects to a law, it cannot be passed. That makes any government above say, 20 people, impossible. (could be more, but you know what I mean. May work on a small scale but not large) De Facto anarchism, for sure.

Unhampered free market economies don't really work. For example, how do you have a stock market if you don't ban insider trading?
Yep, Total Freedom sounds really good, until you try and figure out how to make a society run with total freedom.
BTW, Libertarians need to take Anarchism back from the Marxists.
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