The Opioid Crisis

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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by SilverEagle » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:14 pm

C-Mag wrote:
SilverEagle wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
You got a hardcore doctor............ most have prescribed them pretty readily. My daughter had wisdom teeth out and got 2 kinds of opiods. We let her taken them for the first 24 hrs, then cut her off, but she had a 2 week supply. I still have them around in a box.

How many you need Kath :twisted:
Flush that shit!
Why, I'm waiting for the clamp down, then when the street price gets to a Benjamin per pill I'm financing a fishing trip with them.
1. Don't get caught and get a felony slapped on yourself.

2. Between my wife and I we've had 3 cousins that started on pills only to get hooked to heroin, then they all OD'ed and died.
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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by clubgop » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:17 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Kath wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
So let them. If someone's that hard up to get pain pills and pay for them, go ahead.

Alternatives:
- we could enact a large-scale registry of pain pill prescriptions (bad idea).
- we could regulate the shit out of it, and deny a lot of people their meds (current idea)
- we could remove the profit-motive from healthcare (impossible, without becoming Communist, I'm told)
- we could just let this run its course, and Darwin will sort out the weak. (best idea).
Agreed. Still not clear on how this problem is the drug manufacturers fault.
They regularly, and as a matter of course, lobby doctors and hospitals to over-prescribe. There's an entire sub-industry of direct marketing, and offering "perks" to those that agree to play ball. I know you've heard of this.
They have heavily cracked down on this and none of this is necessary for opioids. They are all generic so there is no interest by any specific company to push them. The patients want them no need to lobby the doctors to prescribe. Stick with what you know, which ain't much if anything, but it aint this.

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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by K@th » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:18 pm

I'm stocking up on a variety of pills so that, should the need arise, and my life is nothing but constant pain to the point where I can't function, I can let myself go without needing permission from the state.
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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by clubgop » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:22 pm

Kath wrote:
SilverEagle wrote: Flush that shit!
No. Just no. Quit polluting the water table.

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If you have a modern sewer system you can flush them, not a big deal. Just no blood thinners, especially WARFARIN. Don't flush Warfarin.

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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by clubgop » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:25 pm

Kath wrote:I'm stocking up on a variety of pills so that, should the need arise, and my life is nothing but constant pain to the point where I can't function, I can let myself go without needing permission from the state.
As for your son, he is not getting constant scripts for opioids is he? Cause the regs you mention are pretty much nationwide for opioids but those regs are extra for other class of drugs which I assume your son is getting a regular scripts of.

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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by K@th » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:27 pm

clubgop wrote:
Kath wrote:I'm stocking up on a variety of pills so that, should the need arise, and my life is nothing but constant pain to the point where I can't function, I can let myself go without needing permission from the state.
As for your son, he is not getting constant scripts for opioids is he? Cause the regs you mention are pretty much nationwide for opioids but those regs are extra for other class of drugs which I assume your son is getting a regular scripts of.
Vyvanse.
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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by clubgop » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:35 pm

Oh that bad. Yeah sorry the monitoring is necessary the only thing I can say is to go to the same Pharmacy so they get to know you, every 30 days on the dot. I have my people, I can keep the drug in stock, expedite any insurance issues and get it to them with a minimum of fuss.

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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by K@th » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:37 pm

We're experimenting this weekend - no Vyvanse. I think it's doing more harm than good. He's gotten more violent, more moody and more surly.

Plus, it's fucking $10/pill.
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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:38 pm

clubgop wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Kath wrote: Agreed. Still not clear on how this problem is the drug manufacturers fault.
They regularly, and as a matter of course, lobby doctors and hospitals to over-prescribe. There's an entire sub-industry of direct marketing, and offering "perks" to those that agree to play ball. I know you've heard of this.
They have heavily cracked down on this and none of this is necessary for opioids. They are all generic so there is no interest by any specific company to push them. The patients want them no need to lobby the doctors to prescribe. Stick with what you know, which ain't much if anything, but it aint this.
It's not necessary anymore, but it certainly was, to get to this point.

nah, you're right. Doctors just suddenly sprouted bleeding hearts, and started tossing pills everywhere, because that's medicine. Thankfully, the generic makers just do this out of the good of their hearts, and not for any sort of profit motive.
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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by C-Mag » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:46 pm

SilverEagle wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
SilverEagle wrote:
Flush that shit!
Why, I'm waiting for the clamp down, then when the street price gets to a Benjamin per pill I'm financing a fishing trip with them.
1. Don't get caught and get a felony slapped on yourself.

2. Between my wife and I we've had 3 cousins that started on pills only to get hooked to heroin, then they all OD'ed and died.

I unknowingly commit 3 felonies a day, what's one more ? :lol:

Fact is, they got tossed in a box and I don't know where they are.
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