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[Speaker to Animals]

The temptation to eat them would be too great for me. I do like some goat cheese in moderation, but goat meat is delicious. Its not as good as lamb, but quite tasty. I would make a terrible farmer, because I would just eat my animals immediately before getting a return on my investment through milk, cheese or eggs. No one in the States eats goat, which is their loss. This Mexican restaurant in gainesville used to make these delicious goat tacos. I took a girl there and she said they made her sick. She said it tasted musky. Goats have some musk about them, but it gives them good flavor.

Just buy lots of goats, then, and pick a few each year to eat.

There's a guy down the street me with about a dozen goats. I don't think I could eat them if I had them. They are really cool when you get to know them.

Two goats left the farm to go to the abattoir this week, they've been fattening up since spring. I deliberately didn't get to know them because it would have upset me. I'd be a rubbish livestock farmer.

Yeah, I wouldn't handle it well either. I could eat cattle I raised since they are all pretty much the same, but goats have personalities and everything. If I had some land, I would for sure have some for milk, but they'd be more like extended family (not as close as the dogs but not mere chattel either).

[heydaralon]

Just buy lots of goats, then, and pick a few each year to eat.

There's a guy down the street me with about a dozen goats. I don't think I could eat them if I had them. They are really cool when you get to know them.

Two goats left the farm to go to the abattoir this week, they've been fattening up since spring. I deliberately didn't get to know them because it would have upset me. I'd be a rubbish livestock farmer.

Yeah, I wouldn't handle it well either. I could eat cattle I raised since they are all pretty much the same, but goats have personalities and everything. If I had some land, I would for sure have some for milk, but they'd be more like extended family (not as close as the dogs but not mere chattel either).

Why are goats considered devious in the Bible? Sheep are the good guys. In many of Jesus' parables, the sheep are viewed like lost sinners who god loves and they are cared for. Then you have the separating of the sheep (heaven bound) vs. goats (hell bound). I could be wrong about this, but in the middle ages and Puritan era America, goats were often associated with devil worship too. What did goats do to earn such ire from Christ and his followers? They have weird looking eyes thats for sure, but they aren't so bad. They just tend to headbutt people and eat things they shouldn't every so often.

[Speaker to Animals]

Two goats left the farm to go to the abattoir this week, they've been fattening up since spring. I deliberately didn't get to know them because it would have upset me. I'd be a rubbish livestock farmer.

Yeah, I wouldn't handle it well either. I could eat cattle I raised since they are all pretty much the same, but goats have personalities and everything. If I had some land, I would for sure have some for milk, but they'd be more like extended family (not as close as the dogs but not mere chattel either).

Why are goats considered devious in the Bible? Sheep are the good guys. In many of Jesus' parables, the sheep are viewed like lost sinners who god loves and they are cared for. Then you have the separating of the sheep (heaven bound) vs. goats (hell bound). I could be wrong about this, but in the middle ages and Puritan era America, goats were often associated with devil worship too. What did goats do to earn such ire from Christ and his followers? They have weird looking eyes thats for sure, but they aren't so bad. They just tend to headbutt people and eat things they shouldn't every so often.

I don't really understand it. That whole thing started when Jesus identified the goats with sinners and the sheep with the righteous in the parable of the sheep and the goats.

Maybe Jesus had a bad experience with a goat. Not sure. Goats are pretty cool. I suspect it's something to do with herding (the Jews come from Hebrews who were a herding people). Maybe sheep are much more obedient and easier to keep in line whereas goats tend to wander in different directions?

[heydaralon]

Was she the one who had the sirens? I think that island she kept Odysseus on was on had a bunch of poppy plants and they just shot up all day. It might not have been that one but I swear in the Odyssey there was a Heroin Island. It was an Aegean sea trap house basically.

The Sirens lived on a rock adjacent to the Charybdis monster (the origin of the saying caught between a rock and a hard place). The Lotus Eaters were a different stop on the journey. Calypso was a beautiful demigod who wanted Odysseus to marry her and choose immortality with her on the island. He still loved his good woman, though, and after a few years of sleeping with Calypso, he petitioned the gods to force her to let him go. Years later Suzanne Vega would write a song about it.

The moral of the story is that women can use their charms and vag to waylay men for years from their destiny and their ambitions. Think about all the men you knew who had ambitions and dreams while they were single who, after getting married, lost it all as the woman snuffed the life out of the ambitions one-by-one to make everything about her. That kind of woman is a calypso.

Decent women don't try to capture you and hold you back from your dreams. Calypso is like the personification of female selfishness, but she gets it eventually and overcomes the trap to let him go.

Now that you mention it, its a weird contrast when you think of Penelope and Calypso. Penelope was loyal till the end, and she kept all those dudes trying to bang her at bay. She used trickery like Calypso, but she did it for her husband. I think Penelope probably just made up that bow string shit for Oddyseus when he came back when in reality she was taking the train to pound town day in and day out by everyone and their brother. Shit even Telemachus was sucking those titties.

I do have a question for you Speaker: there is a part in the book where Poseidon gets pissed at the crew for disfiguring Polyphemus so he fucks with the ocean and has them just drift around. I thought Poseidon was the sea god. But, there is another part of the book where Helen and her husband talk to a different sea god. It was not Poseidon. I don't really understand how that works. Does Poseidon control one part of the sea and this other god controls the other part, like gang turf? It has been a long time since I fucked with Homer, but he never really explains the god hierarchy. Half the time its just one god fucking with another god using the humans as pawns. How can there be two sea gods?

[heydaralon]

In fact, I'm not even sure if Zeus is truly the ruler of the gods. In the Iliad his decrees were often ignored, and the other gods would go behind his back all the time for the pettiest of reasons. He does not really seem like an omnipotent Yahweh type entity. He is more like a half assed manager with scheming employees. I don't really understand polytheism very well. A lot of the stories are interesting, but in many ways its far more chaotic than the monotheistic stuff that followed.

[Speaker to Animals]

Was she the one who had the sirens? I think that island she kept Odysseus on was on had a bunch of poppy plants and they just shot up all day. It might not have been that one but I swear in the Odyssey there was a Heroin Island. It was an Aegean sea trap house basically.

The Sirens lived on a rock adjacent to the Charybdis monster (the origin of the saying caught between a rock and a hard place). The Lotus Eaters were a different stop on the journey. Calypso was a beautiful demigod who wanted Odysseus to marry her and choose immortality with her on the island. He still loved his good woman, though, and after a few years of sleeping with Calypso, he petitioned the gods to force her to let him go. Years later Suzanne Vega would write a song about it.

The moral of the story is that women can use their charms and vag to waylay men for years from their destiny and their ambitions. Think about all the men you knew who had ambitions and dreams while they were single who, after getting married, lost it all as the woman snuffed the life out of the ambitions one-by-one to make everything about her. That kind of woman is a calypso.

Decent women don't try to capture you and hold you back from your dreams. Calypso is like the personification of female selfishness, but she gets it eventually and overcomes the trap to let him go.

Now that you mention it, its a weird contrast when you think of Penelope and Calypso. Penelope was loyal till the end, and she kept all those dudes trying to bang her at bay. She used trickery like Calypso, but she did it for her husband. I think Penelope probably just made up that bow string shit for Oddyseus when he came back when in reality she was taking the train to pound town day in and day out by everyone and their brother. Shit even Telemachus was sucking those titties.

I do have a question for you Speaker: there is a part in the book where Poseidon gets pissed at the crew for disfiguring Polyphemus so he fucks with the ocean and has them just drift around. I thought Poseidon was the sea god. But, there is another part of the book where Helen and her husband talk to a different sea god. It was not Poseidon. I don't really understand how that works. Does Poseidon control one part of the sea and this other god controls the other part, like gang turf? It has been a long time since I fucked with Homer, but he never really explains the god hierarchy. Half the time its just one god fucking with another god using the humans as pawns. How can there be two sea gods?

I am not sure to what scene you refer.

The contrast between Penelope and Calypso was that Penelope let Odysseus go fulfill his destiny. Calypso didn't want to lose him, but she could not be in his life if he fulfilled his destiny and his ambition to return home, so -- like many women -- she would use her charm to keep him somewhat subdued and tried to destroy those those dreams forever so she could possess him. Penelope did not try to possess Odysseus but she had his undying love anyway; whereas Calypso tried to capture and control Odysseus and could not really possess him.

It's actually really common for women to become possessive like that where they will try to alienate the man from his friends, convince him to abandon dreams and ambitions, etc. These women will often try to disguise these efforts as helping him to grow up and become more "responsible", but there is nothing irresponsible about pursuing your dreams. What pisses these women off is that those dreams don't include them. They are basically like Calypsos in a man's life.

There has to be a myth for the inverse of this because I see it just as much with men too. They just are not very good at the manipulation so it becomes a kind of intimidation game.

If you love somebody, you have to let them go. If their dreams and ambitions can include you, then you have a chance. If not, it wasn't meant to be.


Homer was a genius, btw.

[heydaralon]

I'm already watching my liquidity go up in flames around me.

Am I supposed to go long on YETI coolers now?

I'm looking at a different path.

Yeti coolers seem a bit overpriced when I can get basically the same thing for twenty to forty dollars at Wallyworld.

Yeti coolers aren't just a "bit" overpriced. It's important to remember the distinction between fad and utility.

And it's also important to keep in mind what a mafia racket IP is.

They are grossly overpriced. The market will take care of it though, soon enough.

Just a friendly reminder. YETI coolers are extremely rare in the wild, often verging on crypto-zoology. Even David Paulides has never taken a picture of one. They tend to live in colder climates, so it is unlikely that keeping water cool would even be a priority for them to be honest, assuming they are sentient enough to develop that kind of thermal technology anyway. That would be a bit like the Loch Ness monster creating a water bottle.

[Montegriffo]

Monster is such a negative word.

[heydaralon]

The Sirens lived on a rock adjacent to the Charybdis monster (the origin of the saying caught between a rock and a hard place). The Lotus Eaters were a different stop on the journey. Calypso was a beautiful demigod who wanted Odysseus to marry her and choose immortality with her on the island. He still loved his good woman, though, and after a few years of sleeping with Calypso, he petitioned the gods to force her to let him go. Years later Suzanne Vega would write a song about it.

The moral of the story is that women can use their charms and vag to waylay men for years from their destiny and their ambitions. Think about all the men you knew who had ambitions and dreams while they were single who, after getting married, lost it all as the woman snuffed the life out of the ambitions one-by-one to make everything about her. That kind of woman is a calypso.

Decent women don't try to capture you and hold you back from your dreams. Calypso is like the personification of female selfishness, but she gets it eventually and overcomes the trap to let him go.

Now that you mention it, its a weird contrast when you think of Penelope and Calypso. Penelope was loyal till the end, and she kept all those dudes trying to bang her at bay. She used trickery like Calypso, but she did it for her husband. I think Penelope probably just made up that bow string shit for Oddyseus when he came back when in reality she was taking the train to pound town day in and day out by everyone and their brother. Shit even Telemachus was sucking those titties.

I do have a question for you Speaker: there is a part in the book where Poseidon gets pissed at the crew for disfiguring Polyphemus so he fucks with the ocean and has them just drift around. I thought Poseidon was the sea god. But, there is another part of the book where Helen and her husband talk to a different sea god. It was not Poseidon. I don't really understand how that works. Does Poseidon control one part of the sea and this other god controls the other part, like gang turf? It has been a long time since I fucked with Homer, but he never really explains the god hierarchy. Half the time its just one god fucking with another god using the humans as pawns. How can there be two sea gods?

I am not sure to what scene you refer.

The contrast between Penelope and Calypso was that Penelope let Odysseus go fulfill his destiny. Calypso didn't want to lose him, but she could not be in his life if he fulfilled his destiny and his ambition to return home, so -- like many women -- she would use her charm to keep him somewhat subdued and tried to destroy those those dreams forever so she could possess him. Penelope did not try to possess Odysseus but she had his undying love anyway; whereas Calypso tried to capture and control Odysseus and could not really possess him.

It's actually really common for women to become possessive like that where they will try to alienate the man from his friends, convince him to abandon dreams and ambitions, etc. These women will often try to disguise these efforts as helping him to grow up and become more "responsible", but there is nothing irresponsible about pursuing your dreams. What pisses these women off is that those dreams don't include them. They are basically like Calypsos in a man's life.

There has to be a myth for the inverse of this because I see it just as much with men too. They just are not very good at the manipulation so it becomes a kind of intimidation game.

If you love somebody, you have to let them go. If their dreams and ambitions can include you, then you have a chance. If not, it wasn't meant to be.


Homer was a genius, btw.

Good thoughts. I have known a few women like that and seen the effect they had on various people in my life. On the other hand, I have seen Penelope's too. My girlfriend is one. She has helped me with all kinds of things and given me encouragement to pursue my goals. She has also helped me navigate out of some shitty situations. It took me awhile to understand this, and originally I thought she was just meddling so I kind of told her to back off, but I figured out she was genuinely trying to help. I have not met many girls like this.

By the way, the other sea god's name was Proteus.

[Okeefenokee]

Roman Empire kept that shit up for a reaaaaallly long tme.

The market will stay irrational longer than you can stay liquid.

I'm already watching my liquidity go up in flames around me.

Am I supposed to go long on YETI coolers now?

I'm looking at a different path.

Yeti coolers seem a bit overpriced when I can get basically the same thing for twenty to forty dollars at Wallyworld.

They are probably overpriced, but no you can't get the same thing at walmart.