His Name Was La David Johnson.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:51 pm

Nukedog wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:The stunt the Democrats pulled here, just speaks to their level of desperation, they know that they're in trouble, they know that they can't win by ZOMG Trump, but they don't know what else to do, because the Democrat party is at war with itself, Team Booker-Cuomo v. Team Sanders-Warren, they are in the wilderness, doesn't even matter what Trump does or doesn't do, there is no opposition, the Democrats are caterwauling hysterically in lieu of opposition, because they don't even know what they stand for right now.
Oh they knew exactly what they stood for while LBJ oversaw the Hart-Cellar act of 1965. Once the parties flipped they knew. Reap the whirlwind cock suckers. You overplayed your hand two cycles too short.
A lot of liberals are clearly under the delusion that they are going to get right back into the saddle, mid terms, or 2020 at the latest, they just assume that Trumpism is going to put them in the drivers seat, but I think they're in for a rude awakening, at the rate they're going, they'll still be flailing with the caterwaul, against Pence-Haley 2024.
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Re: His Name Was La David Johnson.

Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:14 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:Just gonna point out that when I was pissed many years ago that a friend of mine was killed by IA, Smitty consoled me by reminding me that he knew what he signed up for, and that he died with his boots on.
Well, I of course agree with Kelly, Trump was just taking his cues from Kelly, and Trump/Kelly are of course right on this, on the other hand, might not want to say it to the grieving widows and whatnot, especially when they're black in this current culture war environment, because should have known the Democrats would have been all over this like white on brown rice, I agree with Kelly, it should be sacred, on the other hand, doesn't surprise me that the Demmy's were there listening on the line, Kelly should have seen this coming.
I'm not even convinced that the family of a soldier didn't understand it. Maybe if he was a cook on some FOB in Kabul, but a MB in Africa? Nah, he probably had a talk or two with his family about what he was doing.

Families of combat vets tend to have an inkling about what their young men are thinking. You tell them, "We honor your son because he knew what he was signing up for and he did it anyway," and they understand the meaning.

However, you get a population that decided it was all good in the hood to sit the motherfucking sixteen year war out, and because of their total lack of willingness to be a part of said war have no ability to understand such a sentiment, then commence to demonstrate their total disconnect with the culture within the military, that they take for granted, by going off the deep end in their asinine reaction to something that they ought to be cognizant of...

FUCK YOU.

Oh, but I pay taxes and milk is expensive. I'm just as invested as any soldier.

Retention is so low that the Army is threatening to discharge anyone who doesn't want to stay in before they can get out, and it's because no one wants to stay in when the public has made it absolutely clear that they don't give one fucking shit about the people who have been fighting these wars for nearly two decades while they sit on their asses at home and proclaim that they've sacrificed just as much as the thousands of dead soldiers because muh gas prices.

It's coming to a head, and it ain't gonna be pretty. In hindsight, telling the military to fuck off is probably gonna be something you'll come to regret. It ain't like I didn't warn you.
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Re: His Name Was La David Johnson.

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:28 pm

Personally, I'm exponentially more callous than any politician could be, I see the troops as being expendable downrange, by definition, whenever we got together for a piss up after somebody was KIA, I didn't sit around moping about it, I was just like "we all expendable downrange, who knew? Says so right in the manual; mission over men, so pass the hat and then pass that bottle and lets get this party started...."



It's like my buddy comes rolling up in the truck, screeches to a halt, jumps out and says to me "Dyer's dead" and I says "I know, I just heard", and he's like "what should we do?", and I'm like "let's skip work and get drunk, they're not going to charge us for that, we're grieving n' shit", and he's like "hey, now you're talkin'... what should I do with the truck?", and I says "we're driving it to the bar, foo, we're out of our minds with grief, we can't be held responsible for our actions right now..."

Sure, you get choked up at the funeral, but other than that, compartmentalize and move on, you can't sit around moping about it, expendable downrange, you're a weapon system, you know what the deal is, you're not a victim, and nobody should ever make you out to be one, least of all your homies.

A Commander-in-Chief, who mopes and blubbers about troops he had to expend downrange? Personally, I'd find that to be pathetic, get a fuckin' grip, the CinC is not your mommy, nor should he try to be.

The CinC is clinically detached upon contact? I should hope so, he's got the Football following him around, if you're not prepared to kill a hundred million without batting an eyelash, you're not fit to be CinC, so just hand that Football to someone who is prepared for war at all times, because being the Sky King is not for the faint of heart blubberers, one A-Team expended downrange? Whoopie fuckin' do, it wasn't a Carrier Battle Group, all war is attrition in the end, suck it up and soldier on.

"The loss of a Carrier Battle Group; is a tragedy, one A-Team expended downrange; is a statistic, ships o' the line are not easily replaced, but troops are cheap and plentiful" ~ Smitty Koba.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:54 pm

And tell you what, Trump's seeming callous disregard and willingness to brandish the Football without batting an eyelash?

That's sho got them North Koreans flummoxed right now, they don't know what to do, they've gotten so used to panty waist blubberers caving into their routine, they're totally confounded by the Trumpster, which; exactly, bitch, that's how it's done, whatcha gonna do, when the Hulkamaniacs run wild on you Pyongyang?

Oh, nothing? Yeah, that's what we thought....



What, it scares the liberals? Yeah, good, cause it scares the Foreign Devils too, that's the whole point.

The way to beat Crazy Ivan, is to ensure that he knows at all times; that you're even crazier than he is, that's the only thing that works actually.

You want Trump to start blubbering and wailing over one A-Team, in front of North Korea and the whole world? Don't give them the satisfaction, just suck it up and soldier on like it ain't no thang, streets are watchin'.

He knew what he was signing up for? Damn rights, come home with your shield or on it, Spartan, same as it ever was.
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Post by Montegriffo » Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:57 am

Nukedog wrote:
Weird thing is, Commies were trying to off him. Or maybe it was the other way around.

Fuck I forget
It was the far right OAS that tried several times to kill De Gaulle after he agreed to withdraw from Algeria.
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Post by heydaralon » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:07 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Nukedog wrote:
Weird thing is, Commies were trying to off him. Or maybe it was the other way around.

Fuck I forget
It was the far right OAS that tried several times to kill De Gaulle after he agreed to withdraw from Algeria.
That movie Day of the Jackal was about this I believe. Good flick!
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Re: His Name Was La David Johnson.

Post by LVH2 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:20 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:Just gonna point out that when I was pissed many years ago that a friend of mine was killed by IA, Smitty consoled me by reminding me that he knew what he signed up for, and that he died with his boots on.
Well, I of course agree with Kelly, Trump was just taking his cues from Kelly, and Trump/Kelly are of course right on this, on the other hand, might not want to say it to the grieving widows and whatnot, especially when they're black in this current culture war environment, because should have known the Democrats would have been all over this like white on brown rice, I agree with Kelly, it should be sacred, on the other hand, doesn't surprise me that the Demmy's were there listening on the line, Kelly should have seen this coming.
I also thought this would be a pretty normal thing to say. Dying because you signed up to risk your life for a cause seems a lot better than being killed by a drunk driver.

But, I'm not sure how many women see things that way.

But, but, they never quote the whole thing. "He knew what he signed up for, but it still hurts when it happens." Maybe a little tone deaf, or I guess a lot tone deaf. But certainly a manufactured outrage.

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Re: His Name Was La David Johnson.

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:53 pm

LVH2 wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:Just gonna point out that when I was pissed many years ago that a friend of mine was killed by IA, Smitty consoled me by reminding me that he knew what he signed up for, and that he died with his boots on.
Well, I of course agree with Kelly, Trump was just taking his cues from Kelly, and Trump/Kelly are of course right on this, on the other hand, might not want to say it to the grieving widows and whatnot, especially when they're black in this current culture war environment, because should have known the Democrats would have been all over this like white on brown rice, I agree with Kelly, it should be sacred, on the other hand, doesn't surprise me that the Demmy's were there listening on the line, Kelly should have seen this coming.
I also thought this would be a pretty normal thing to say. Dying because you signed up to risk your life for a cause seems a lot better than being killed by a drunk driver.

But, I'm not sure how many women see things that way.

But, but, they never quote the whole thing. "He knew what he signed up for, but it still hurts when it happens." Maybe a little tone deaf, or I guess a lot tone deaf. But certainly a manufactured outrage.
Well, I don't have a dog in this fight, but as a former professional soldier, I view the Johnson family to be wholly misguided here, as, whether they intended to or not, they are besmirching the honour of their own troop, by turning him into a political football, and portraying him as a victim, which, I find to be pathetic.

Now, I actually blame the Democrats, but at the same time, if the Johnson family are going to take that poison apple, that's on them, and personally, I just turn away in disgust, it's too bad for La David Johnson, that his family is so unmartial as to make a mockery of him in front of the whole world.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:56 pm

Ironically one of the all too few black combat infantrymen and this is what happens. Can't even try and do the right thing. Almost feel bad for the guy now.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:16 pm

Again, just to clarify, La David Johnson was not an SF Soldier, he was not a "Green Beret", he was also not an Infantryman, he was a 91Bravo; Light Wheeled Vehicle Driver/Mechanic, no disrespect to him for it, but the media keeps calling him a "Green Beret", which he was not.
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