Postby Speaker to Animals » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:30 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Although the 4,900 firefighters here operate under a unified command, the park service has a very different firefighting philosophy from that of the forest service or the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.
Park officials prefer to herd fires where they want them to go and allow blazes to burn out on their own. It's a science-based approach that serves the same function as off-season forest thinning and controlled burns. But those arguments often fail to stand up to public distaste for trees burning in beloved national parks.
This happened because somebody set vineyards on fire.
Something similar happened here in WNC and over the border in Tennessee the summer before last. These are arsonists. There are actually a lot of arsonists each year setting shit on fire. Torturing them to death is too good.
This happened because somebody set vineyards on fire.
Something similar happened here in WNC and over the border in Tennessee the summer before last. These are arsonists. There are actually a lot of arsonists each year setting shit on fire. Torturing them to death is too good.
One fire perhaps, perhaps two or three, not all of them.
Speaker to Animals wrote:That's exactly what happened. That's how it happened here too. Somebody set fires all over the fucking place at the worst possible time.
Given the amount of camping and such going on in the entire state of California, it seems pretty likely that this could happen on its own, any windy day. Who knows.
There are plenty of nihilist and folks that just want to watch the world burn, folks who just want to have some impact, and folks who want to act our their resentment on the world.
I would not be surprised in the least to find out it was intentional.
Postby Speaker to Animals » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:41 pm
I found out from a firefighter neighbor that it happens fairly often.
But during severe drouts when everything is super dry, and the wind is enough to spread fire far and wide, it becomes a huge story.
After reading about what people endured and died from over the mountains in Gatlenburg, I decided arsonists are pretty much the worst of the worst. They have to go.
C-Mag wrote:
You guys are placing the blame in the wrong place.
Those laws are like that because we've been assaulted for 40 years by radical environmentalists. Those are the fuckers that demanded and protested all maintenance of our forests stop, Greenies stopped healthy thinning of forests, Greenies faked data and used the Endangered Species act to shut down good Conservation, Environmentalists used Eco-Terrorists to destroy vehicles, equipment and structures to force these actions.
Be more specific. What kind of 'maintenance' do you think they need?
If anything, this appears to be a case of mismanagement, not a lack of interference.
it's both actually, the assinine laws cause the inability to move fast, which causes the burns to slow down due to restrictions. Then it becomes a backlog, and then a fire hazard, then something like this happens and get out of control fast.
Don't forget we had record rains last year. With record rains comes record undergrowth. With record undergrowth comes record fires
State and Federally managed land learned long ago to let controlled burns happen to lessen the chance of undergrowth. The problem here comes from private land mainly if you look at where the fires are burning.
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