War With Communists

[Smitty-48]

Blah, blah, blah. (You're the guy I had to learn what "liberty" is.)

BTW: the tactic of The Left is to deny there is such a thing as "liberty," that it's just a synonym for "freedom," hence, a freedom argument covers it. I get out Black's Law Dictionary and quote the relevant parts but Lefties gonna Left.

Whatevs, I'm not the one who called you a Commie, you called yourself a Commie, when you asserted that all collectivists are one in the same. Go ahead and try to duck the logical implications of....

"Collectivists are Collectivists" - Commisar Marty Hash

... but the next time you start screeching about the Kulaks and how we should seize their property to redistirbute to the masses by centrally planned force ostensibly in order to effect Peace, Bread, and Land; don't come crying to me about the Commies, Commie.

[Martin Hash]

This is a valid point. In point of fact, most major communist regimes switched into national socialism not long after coming to power. Just think of what the term national socialism means. If that doesn't describe China, North Korea, USSR, and Vietnam, then it means nothing.

What seems to differentiate what we want to think of as "national socialist" colloquially is whether the regime is based on Marxism or not.

Communist is a Party, but the technical differentiation between Communism and Marxism is that The State owns the means of the production rather than The Workers.
Marxism differs from Socialism via the "equality" goal: from those according to their ability, to those according to their need.
Collectivism is all the ideologies that purport that the needs of the group supersede the wants of the individual.

[Martin Hash]

Blah, blah, blah. (You're the guy I had to learn what "liberty" is.)

BTW: the tactic of The Left is to deny there is such a thing as "liberty," that it's just a synonym for "freedom," hence, a freedom argument covers it. I get out Black's Law Dictionary and quote the relevant parts but Lefties gonna Left.

Whatevs, I'm not the one who called you a Commie, you called yourself a Commie, when you asserted that all collectivists are one in the same. Go ahead and try to duck the logical implications of....

"Collectivists are Collectivists" - Commisar Marty Hash

... but the next time you start screeching about the Kulaks and how we should seize their property to redistirbute to the masses by centrally planned force ostensibly in order to effect Peace, Bread, and Land; don't come crying to me about the Commies, Commie.

You just keep up, you'll learn something.

[Speaker to Animals]

There are assholes who want to kill you, assholes who want to take your shit, and assholes who want to save you from yourself.

We all dabble, it depends upon degree. I wouldn't mind putting heroin dealer in front of firing squads to keep people from becoming heroin addicts, for example. I can tick one notch off. Martin wouldn't mind taking people's shit to even out income distributions.

[GloryofGreece]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/mov ... 650946001/

Suburbicon , sure to riffle feathers and russel jimmies...(its about losing white privilege during the 1950s)

What's this movie got to do with Communism?

I find it tangentially related to post modernism/deconstructionist/liberal politics-culture in general. Its a movie and its meant to make white people fell ultra privileged and that's a part of class warfare aka communism at the end of the day.

[Smitty-48]

Communist is a Party, but the technical differentiation between Communism and Marxism is that The State owns the means of the production rather than The Workers.
Marxism differs from Socialism via the "equality" goal: from those according to their ability, to those according to their need.
Collectivism is all the ideologies that purport that the needs of the group supersede the wants of the individual.

Lolwhut? You're way out of your depth, guy. Nonsensical word salad much? <chortles>

[Martin Hash]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/mov ... 650946001/

Suburbicon , sure to riffle feathers and russel jimmies...(its about losing white privilege during the 1950s)

What's this movie got to do with Communism?

I find it tangentially related to post modernism/deconstructionist/liberal politics-culture in general. Its a movie and its meant to make white people fell ultra privileged and that's a part of class warfare aka communism at the end of the day.

Hmmm... I'll have to watch the movie. However, be careful using the word "privileged;" it's part of the narrative of victimization, a relatively new term meant to put Whites on the defensive, particularly White males.

[Martin Hash]

Communist is a Party, but the technical differentiation between Communism and Marxism is that The State owns the means of the production rather than The Workers.
Marxism differs from Socialism via the "equality" goal: from those according to their ability, to those according to their need.
Collectivism is all the ideologies that purport that the needs of the group supersede the wants of the individual.

Lolwhut? You're way out of your depth, guy. Nonsensical word salad much? <chortles>

You should get out more.

[GloryofGreece]

What's this movie got to do with Communism?

I find it tangentially related to post modernism/deconstructionist/liberal politics-culture in general. Its a movie and its meant to make white people fell ultra privileged and that's a part of class warfare aka communism at the end of the day.

Hmmm... I'll have to watch the movie. However, be careful using the word "privileged;" it's part of the narrative of victimization, a relatively new term meant to put Whites on the defensive, particularly White males.

Just saying that's the narrative of the movie from Clooney's mouth. Gives you a good feel as to the point of the movie.

[Smitty-48]

Blah, blah, blah. (You're the guy I had to learn what "liberty" is.)

BTW: the tactic of The Left is to deny there is such a thing as "liberty," that it's just a synonym for "freedom," hence, a freedom argument covers it. I get out Black's Law Dictionary and quote the relevant parts but Lefties gonna Left.

Whatevs, I'm not the one who called you a Commie, you called yourself a Commie, when you asserted that all collectivists are one in the same. Go ahead and try to duck the logical implications of....

"Collectivists are Collectivists" - Commisar Marty Hash

... but the next time you start screeching about the Kulaks and how we should seize their property to redistirbute to the masses by centrally planned force ostensibly in order to effect Peace, Bread, and Land; don't come crying to me about the Commies, Commie.

You just keep up, you'll learn something.

Well, so far we've learned that you assert yourself to be a Communist, because you blatantly espouse Collectivism, while asserting that all Collectivists are the same, and since "Collectivists are Collectivists", you and a Communist is a distinction without a difference apparently.

Do tell.