10-year-old autistic boy getting arrested at school

[Ex-California]

I wasn't talking about you brother, and certainly meant no disparagement towards you, or any individual.

I only have one target: the government school.

Oh I know, but still it's one of those things that people don't realize that people with disabilities don't always have control over what they outwardly show. It's frustrating when people take it out on kids or people with disabilities instead of those who are the ones that are causing the real long term pain.

That is the problem, people think that getting scratched is going to have lasting harm... arresting that boy is going to have significant and a lot of negative repercussions. On top of trust of teachers, and police, the kid is probably going to become a severe introvert for fear of acting out... unless things are changed, this kid's life just got flipped upside down because a teacher couldn't handle their ward.

Totally agree with you here

[jbird4049]

Close the government schools.

Should be noted that private schools want nothing to do with kids like the one in the video. You know that right?

Picking and choosing their students allows private schools to have "better" results, while having public schools take everyone makes them do "worse".

I wasn't talking about you brother, and certainly meant no disparagement towards you, or any individual.

I only have one target: the government school.

Oh I know, but still it's one of those things that people don't realize that people with disabilities don't always have control over what they outwardly show. It's frustrating when people take it out on kids or people with disabilities instead of those who are the ones that are causing the real long term pain.

That is the problem, people think that getting scratched is going to have lasting harm... arresting that boy is going to have significant and a lot of negative repercussions. On top of trust of teachers, and police, the kid is probably going to become a severe introvert for fear of acting out... unless things are changed, this kid's life just got flipped upside down because a teacher couldn't handle their ward.

If the person is with autism they don't say what level of the spectrum he is on. It shouldn't matter... if he is on the spectrum at all, the student should be given the bennifit of the doubt.

The benefit of the doubt goes out the window once violence is introduced. Everything has its limit.

Yes, everything has its limit. IT doesn't mean that you treat children with the same response as an adult. Also, when I was in kindergarten we had a child like that, he was over 5 ft tall, and he was put in there because at the time there was no other educational system that would take him. He was violent, he was erratic, and easy to irritate. Yet he was put into a classroom with "babies" for all intended purposes...

When he lashed out, nothing happened, when he broke a teacher's arm, nothing happened to him.

I'm sorry, but when I was growing up, teachers accepted that special ed students would possibly do things that we can't comprehend and dealt with it as time went by...

Today, this kid would have been arrested...

So tell me, tolerance or intolerance, what do we want to teach our children?

I think some people do not want to spend the extra effort to understand, and help, children like that boy. It's much easier to just abusively control him. Rather like some police demand respect for their authority regardless of the situation, and then refuse to give respect to others. Obey, and be quit, or else.

[jbird4049]

They were until school systems across the country thought that it was better to "assimilate" them into normal classes with aides. I went through school in the "retard wing"... so take what you will with a grain of salt here, but I believe half the reason they did what they did was because parents were tired of their children being stigmatized just because they had a disability...

All children are different. Some can be mainstreamed, others can't, and many can be partially mainstreamed. It should be what's best for them, rather than by fad, or for the convenience of the parents/teachers/administrators.

[Ex-California]

They were until school systems across the country thought that it was better to "assimilate" them into normal classes with aides. I went through school in the "retard wing"... so take what you will with a grain of salt here, but I believe half the reason they did what they did was because parents were tired of their children being stigmatized just because they had a disability...

All children are different. Some can be mainstreamed, others can't, and many can be partially mainstreamed. It should be what's best for them, rather than by fad, or for the convenience of the parents/teachers/administrators.

If a student is taking up all of a teacher's attention its not fair to the other students for him to remain.

[skankhunt42]

Does anyone know exactly what the kid did?
I feel like there is a lot of projecting going on.

What we know for sure is that the kid did something, and it was in court for a year, and the kid got arrested.

What did he do?
What did the family know? Did they expect an arrest?

Clearly the authorities and the school could have handled it better, but that doesn't excuse the kid. You don't get a get out of jail free card if you assault someone just because you're autistic. What if the teacher working with him was a professional and she just got her ass beat by a 9 year old because she's 60 years old? I've worked with 3rd graders before, I've seen a 3rd grade youth throw a chair at a teacher and break her nose, and that kid was an IEP kid, they put him in a new school.

Autistic or not, if the kid violently hurt an old woman (which is possible), he should be charged. I'm not saying he should be dramatically arrested at school, but charged. You have to start a paper trail on anyone who's dangerous regardless of their mental status.

[jbird4049]

All children are different. Some can be mainstreamed, others can't, and many can be partially mainstreamed. It should be what's best for them, rather than by fad, or for the convenience of the parents/teachers/administrators.

If a student is taking up all of a teacher's attention its not fair to the other students for him to remain.

I don't disagree. I was making a point about not treating all children the same way.

[clubgop]

Picking and choosing their students allows private schools to have "better" results, while having public schools take everyone makes them do "worse".

This is bullshit. How much do the teachers union pay you?

[skankhunt42]

Picking and choosing their students allows private schools to have "better" results, while having public schools take everyone makes them do "worse".

This is bullshit. How much do the teachers union pay you?

I have worked in a private and public school. Umm, it's true, it's damn true. What bubble are you living in?

[jbird4049]

Picking and choosing their students allows private schools to have "better" results, while having public schools take everyone makes them do "worse".

This is bullshit. How much do the teachers union pay you?

I'm doing it for free although if any teachers' union wants to pay my future college expenses I would be grateful.

[clubgop]

Picking and choosing their students allows private schools to have "better" results, while having public schools take everyone makes them do "worse".

This is bullshit. How much do the teachers union pay you?

I have worked in a private and public school. Umm, it's true, it's damn true. What bubble are you living in?

The bubble where Carholic schools take on all comers. Whether you say there is dependent on behaviour.