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SuburbanFarmer
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by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:53 pm
jbird4049 wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:jbird4049 wrote:
Dude I'm a Californian.
It's not someplace like white bread Missouri. Hell,the United States had massive immigration from every country in Europe throughout the 19th century and California also had the Chinese, the Japanese, plus the Californios and Native Americans who were here when we conquered it. Adding everyone since the 1960s and it's something.
And did I say there were no control?
But it isn't just about America. You (marxists) explicitly call for the extinction of "whiteness". You support the demographic replacement of indigenous Europeans by North Africans and Arabs. You celebrate the genocide of an entire race (probably your own, which is another reason I think this really is just mental illness rather than a legitimate ideology).
What conversation are we having? Where did I call for genocide? And wasn't l talking about Americans and not Europe? And WTF are you talking about Marxists? I am being confused with SJW extremists?
In otherwords, what on God's Good Green Earth are you talking about???
JBird.. J... J-man.. Buddy...
Just relax, and accept that you're The Enemy here, and everything will be fine. Clearly, you've stepped beyond the pale of American Behavior, and identified yourself as part a sub-human group that can't think for themselves. Now, let's just sit down and let the DSL's of the world run things, as they clearly have this under control. I hear they're putting together a free shower program for us.
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by kybkh » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:06 pm
Seems we are in a Cold Civil War at this point. As opposed to moderating both sides are sliding to extremes.
What is going totally un-discussed is what is happening to the Democratic Party and it's impact on political discourse. The demographic shift in the Dem party has transformed it into something America has never seen before. One of the two main parties feels the Constitution is outdated and should be destroyed which means the game is over.
“I've got a phone that allows me to convene Americans from every walk of life, nonprofits, businesses, the private sector, universities to try to bring more and more Americans together around what I think is a unifying theme..." - Obama
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by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:12 pm
kybkh wrote:Seems we are in a Cold Civil War at this point. As opposed to moderating both sides are sliding to extremes.
What is going totally un-discussed is what is happening to the Democratic Party and it's impact on political discourse. The demographic shift in the Dem party has transformed it into something America has never seen before. One of the two main parties feels the Constitution is outdated and should be destroyed which means the game is over.
Could you cite anyone, anywhere, stating that the Constitution should be 'destroyed'?
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by kybkh » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:20 pm
I am having trouble picking out who to cite that might be most persuasive to you...
Here, this is from 2012, when Dems still were in the WH but restricted in their actions but that mean old Constitution...
AS the nation teeters at the edge of fiscal chaos, observers are reaching the conclusion that the American system of government is broken. But almost no one blames the culprit: our insistence on obedience to the Constitution, with all its archaic, idiosyncratic and downright evil provisions.
Consider, for example, the assertion by the Senate minority leader last week that the House could not take up a plan by Senate Democrats to extend tax cuts on households making $250,000 or less because the Constitution requires that revenue measures originate in the lower chamber. Why should anyone care? Why should a lame-duck House, 27 members of which were defeated for re-election, have a stranglehold on our economy? Why does a grotesquely malapportioned Senate get to decide the nation’s fate?
Louis Michael Seidman is the Carmack Waterhouse Professor of Constitutional Law at Georgetown University Law Center in Washington, D.C., a widely read constitutional law scholar and major proponent of the critical legal studies movement.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/31/opini ... ution.html
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by kybkh » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:23 pm
In a January 30, 2012 interview with Al Hayat Television in Egypt, an Egyptian reporter asked U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg for advice on how to form a constitution for the new government, which overthrew President Hosni Mubarak last year.
She was asked: “Would your honor’s advice be to get a part of other countries’ constitutions, or should we develop our own draft?”
Justice Ginsberg responded: “I would not look to the U.S. Constitution if I was drafting a constitution in the year 2012. I might look at the constitution of South Africa.”
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/ ... ublic.html
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by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:30 pm
So... a NYT editorial, and Ruth Ginsberg stating that the Constitution would be written differently 200+ years later = "An unprecedented situation, in which one of the 2 major parties wants to destroy the Constitution"....
I'm starting to think that Trump has destabalized the Right way more than the Left in this country...
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by kybkh » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:33 pm
Here's the
DNC Chair letting it all hang out....
Donna Brazile ✔ @donnabrazile
We need a new constitution: Here’s how we save American democracy from charlatans, loudmouths and the 1 percent
http://zite.to/1CvqRpU
10:22 PM - 27 Sep 2014
https://pjmedia.com/blog/rich-big-name- ... stitution/
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by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:40 pm
That's a valid one. Rhetoric from a known corrupted former reporter, and temporary chair.
I'll concede you're right, when someone marches in favor of wiping the entire Constitution and starting over.
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by Xenophon » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:17 pm
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
That's a valid one. Rhetoric from a known corrupted former reporter, and temporary chair.
I'll concede you're right, when someone marches in favor of wiping the entire Constitution and starting over.
Can someone screen shot this post?
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by jbird4049 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:24 pm
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
JBird.. J... J-man.. Buddy...
Just relax, and accept that you're The Enemy here, and everything will be fine. Clearly, you've stepped beyond the pale of American Behavior, and identified yourself as part a sub-human group that can't think for themselves. Now, let's just sit down and let the DSL's of the world run things, as they clearly have this under control. I hear they're putting together a free shower program for us.
But is so haarrrd to do!
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.