BLM Blamed for Spike in Deaths of Chicago's Blacks

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Re: BLM Blamed for Spike in Deaths of Chicago's Blacks

Post by Penner » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:37 pm

Why is it that I can keep on hearing stories like these:

http://motorcitymuckraker.com/2017/01/0 ... ssaulting/

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-north ... end_p.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 09996.html

http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/41 ... drew-sadek
(^^^ I think that these two are related)

http://www.wmur.com/article/lawsuit-pol ... er/8558038

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/03/ph ... -teen.html

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/U ... -0011.html

http://www.wpxi.com/news/ex-allegheny-c ... /481103890

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng- ... s-database

http://www.twincities.com/2017/01/04/wi ... tic-rival/

https://apnews.com/f1bfe501d8c142e1bcd54251534e46f2

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/30/te ... w-cop.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/miami-polic ... newspaper/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... llie-texas

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... 114963afff

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ss ... r_home_pop

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

http://wwlp.com/2016/12/24/video-office ... sing-home/

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2016/ ... ulted-son/

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2016/ ... k-for-gun/

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/20/healt ... Stories%29

http://weekendherald.com/deaf-man-beate ... -language/

http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/loca ... 01003.html

http://helenair.com/news/crime-and-cour ... =hootsuite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKQqgVlk0NQ
(^^^ This is the video that shows Walter Scott being shot in the back)


http://www.twincities.com/2016/11/30/wo ... dismissal/

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/17/us/ph ... .html?_r=0

http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/inde ... =hootsuite
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Re: BLM Blamed for Spike in Deaths of Chicago's Blacks

Post by Okeefenokee » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:49 pm

Penner wrote:Why is it that I can keep on hearing stories like these:

http://motorcitymuckraker.com/2017/01/0 ... ssaulting/

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-north ... end_p.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 09996.html

http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/41 ... drew-sadek
(^^^ I think that these two are related)

http://www.wmur.com/article/lawsuit-pol ... er/8558038

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/03/ph ... -teen.html

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/U ... -0011.html

http://www.wpxi.com/news/ex-allegheny-c ... /481103890

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng- ... s-database

http://www.twincities.com/2017/01/04/wi ... tic-rival/

https://apnews.com/f1bfe501d8c142e1bcd54251534e46f2

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/30/te ... w-cop.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/miami-polic ... newspaper/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... llie-texas

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... 114963afff

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ss ... r_home_pop

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

http://wwlp.com/2016/12/24/video-office ... sing-home/

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2016/ ... ulted-son/

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2016/ ... k-for-gun/

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/20/healt ... Stories%29

http://weekendherald.com/deaf-man-beate ... -language/

http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/loca ... 01003.html

http://helenair.com/news/crime-and-cour ... =hootsuite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKQqgVlk0NQ
(^^^ This is the video that shows Walter Scott being shot in the back)


http://www.twincities.com/2016/11/30/wo ... dismissal/

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/17/us/ph ... .html?_r=0

http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/inde ... =hootsuite
Because you're intent on ignoring information like this,

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You can cherry pick stories all day. The WP tried to show that people were gunned down in the street for no reason. They even tried to represent their data in that way, but the actual data contradicts you.
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Re: BLM Blamed for Spike in Deaths of Chicago's Blacks

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:23 pm

That's a hell of a lot of cherries. Where did the WaPo data come from? Police departments? ;)
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Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:40 pm

I don't know if this is appropriate, but I am morbidly curious about the 1% crossbow/nail gun police incidents.

Also, this might be racist, but I bet those were white dudes.
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Re: BLM Blamed for Spike in Deaths of Chicago's Blacks

Post by jbird4049 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:48 pm

Okeefenokee wrote: Image

You can cherry pick stories all day. The WP tried to show that people were gunned down in the street for no reason. They even tried to represent their data in that way, but the actual data contradicts you.
They do not need to have it in their hand.

If a person has a weapon on them, say in their holster, or pocket, or glove-box, they are counted armed.

Pocket knives, and tools like swiss army knives, and leatherman tools, often count too.

Annually, it's probable that there will be over a hundred unarmed people, out of the more than one thousand killed by police.

These figures cover the dead. The wounded are not counted.
GrumpyCatFace wrote:That's a hell of a lot of cherries. Where did the WaPo data come from? Police departments? ;)
No. Only half of police homicides are reported to the FBI by those police departments. Last year,the FBI started a pilot program to try to count all deaths.

We know about the unreported deaths because newspapers like the Washington Post, and the Guardian, along with other organizations like online websites, have start programs in the past two years to cover those disparities, and get accurate information. It involves researching God knows how many newspapers, radio, and television stories, word of mouth, emails, letters, and probably carrier pigeons with tips on homicides. The reporters, and researchers, then have to verify each one. How fun.

Here is the Guardian's website. It seems to be very conscientious.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ser ... e-killings
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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:48 am

One hundred out of a thousand is ten percent. You know you're backing up my argument, right?
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Post by jbird4049 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:47 pm

jbird4049 wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote: Image

You can cherry pick stories all day. The WP tried to show that people were gunned down in the street for no reason. They even tried to represent their data in that way, but the actual data contradicts you.
They do not need to have it in their hand.

If a person has a weapon on them, say in their holster, or pocket, or glove-box, they are counted armed.

Pocket knives, and tools like swiss army knives, and leatherman tools, often count too.

Annually, it's probable that there will be over a hundred unarmed people, out of the more than one thousand killed by police.

These figures cover the dead. The wounded are not counted.
GrumpyCatFace wrote:That's a hell of a lot of cherries. Where did the WaPo data come from? Police departments? ;)
No. Only half of police homicides are reported to the FBI by those police departments. Last year,the FBI started a pilot program to try to count all deaths.

We know about the unreported deaths because newspapers like the Washington Post, and the Guardian, along with other organizations like online websites, have start programs in the past two years to cover those disparities, and get accurate information. It involves researching God knows how many newspapers, radio, and television stories, word of mouth, emails, letters, and probably carrier pigeons with tips on homicides. The reporters, and researchers, then have to verify each one. How fun.

Here is the Guardian's website. It seems to be very conscientious.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ser ... e-killings
Okeefenokee wrote:One hundred out of a thousand is ten percent. You know you're backing up my argument, right?
No. Even accepting as okay that "only" 1 in 10 of the people killed by police were unarmed, I noted that the criteria used for a human being being counted as armed, and therefore a righteous murder was flawed. Anything that might be considered a weapon, even if it is not ordinarily so, and is potentially in the reach of the victim, makes that person "armed". Guns holstered, or in the glove box, knives pocketed, work tools attached to the belt, have used as justification. It not only does not meet the dictionary's definition, it is common sense. The criteria are overly broad, and they stink of often being used as excuses, not explanations.

So using the Guardian newspaper's numbers, considering 162 of the 1090, or just under 15%, people killed last year as being unarmed is actually too conservative.

I also noted that the deaths do not count the wounded, so even using the numbers most favorable to the police, hundreds more unarmed people were wounded. Being shot, or beaten, often gives life long injuries. Even tasering sometimes requires hospitalization.
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Re: BLM Blamed for Spike in Deaths of Chicago's Blacks

Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:37 pm

Unless you have some figures, all you're doing is talking. I've shown you data, and you don't accept it. Present your own, then. Let's see some work, eh? If the streets are running red with blood, step outside and take a picture, because otherwise, I've demonstrated that they aren't, and you've presented nothing other than skepticism not backed up with evidence.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:46 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:I don't know if this is appropriate, but I am morbidly curious about the 1% crossbow/nail gun police incidents.

Also, this might be racist, but I bet those were white dudes.
That was a redneck and a Mexican framer.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:55 pm

Probably happened at the Picture People store.