THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:19 pm

Zlaxer wrote:China is not good for the world.
All the more reason not to empower China by running and hiding under the covers from the world, while electing Vladimir Putin's Poodle to be your Commander-in-Chief.

Mr. Ivan and the Chicoms are celebrating the self inflicted downfall of the American Century, why wouldn't they?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:22 pm

I don't think smitty is wrong. As per usual.

l was told he was a troll but he's not.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Zlaxer » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:22 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Zlaxer wrote:China is not good for the world.
All the more reason not to empower China by running and hiding under the covers from the world, while electing Vladimir Putin's Poodle to be your Commander-in-Chief.

I'm not a fan of Putin by any means....and the Donald needs to be watched for sure.....but the PRC is about to have more problems on their hand then they will be able to handle....if the US kicks them out of the US market before the PRC can generate internal demand....the PRC is fucked.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:28 pm

Zlaxer wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
Zlaxer wrote:China is not good for the world.
All the more reason not to empower China by running and hiding under the covers from the world, while electing Vladimir Putin's Poodle to be your Commander-in-Chief.

I'm not a fan of Putin by any means....and the Donald needs to be watched for sure.....but the PRC is about to have more problems on their hand then they will be able to handle....if the US kicks them out of the US market before the PRC can generate internal demand....the PRC is fucked.
Who has said China is going to be kicked out of your market? You have a free market, tariffs don't kick anybody out of your market, they simply drive prices up for the American consumer, you already have tariffs with China, you have a comprehensive tariff regime with China, big whoop, they're not the big stick against importation that you seem to surmise them to be, tack more on at the border; you're just tacking that on to American's wallets.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by KerningChameleon » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:29 pm

There's an important distinction to be made here, I feel: The American Dollar is strong, the American Consumer is not.

Once was a time American movies had to be made for American audiences. Now, a Hollywood flick can bomb in the Land o the Free, but sell gangbusters in the overseas market. Producers scrape and bow to get their films content cleared with the PRC. Fact of the matter is, the world doesn't need the Americans to buy shit as badly anymore.

"What's that you say" ol Chairman Xi says, "The Americans raised tariffs? Well, my Canadian, Mexican, and European friends, our doors remain open as ever, step right over to the table and well give you a fairer shake on imports than those stubborn ol Yankees."

Not to mention Silicon Valley isn't happy with Donald's insinuations. Piss em off enough, maybe the "unicorn wunderkind" will move the whole kit and kaboodle of their companies into more legally friendly pastures.

There's an old saying in the tech world: "The Internet interprets censorship as damage, and routes around it." Perhaps the same will be said of international trade and trade walls. What's all the tariffs in the world mean when everyone else decides trade with the US isn't worth it anymore?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:30 pm

KerningChameleon wrote:There's an important distinction to be made here, I feel: The American Dollar is strong, the American Consumer is not.

Once was a time American movies had to be made for American audiences. Now, a Hollywood flick can bomb in the Land o the Free, but sell gangbusters in the overseas market. Producers scrape and bow to get their films content cleared with the PRC. Fact of the matter is, the world doesn't need the Americans to buy shit as badly anymore.

"What's that you say" ol Chair Xi says, "The Americans raised tariffs? Well, my Canadian, Mexican, and European friends, our doors remain open as ever, step right over to the table and well give you a fairer shake on imports than those stubborn ol Yankees."

Not to mention Silicon Valley isn't happy with Donald's insinuations. Piss em off enough, maybe the "unicorn wunderkind" will move the whole kit and kaboodle of their companies into more legally friendly pastures.

There's an old saying in the tech world: "The Internet interprets censorship as damage, and routes around it." Perhaps the same will be said of international trade and trade walls. What's all the tariffs in the world mean when everyone else decides trade with the US isn't worth it anymore?
We don't buy Chinese steel. Fuck off. What do you do for a living anyway? Genuinely curious.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Zlaxer » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:31 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Zlaxer wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:they're not the big stick against importation that you seem to surmise them to be.
Splain to me how 30%+ tariffs on Chinese shit won't make them more expensive then US goods?

The power to tax is the power to destroy.....and Cheep Chinese shit needs to be destroyed.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by KerningChameleon » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:33 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
KerningChameleon wrote:There's an important distinction to be made here, I feel: The American Dollar is strong, the American Consumer is not.

Once was a time American movies had to be made for American audiences. Now, a Hollywood flick can bomb in the Land o the Free, but sell gangbusters in the overseas market. Producers scrape and bow to get their films content cleared with the PRC. Fact of the matter is, the world doesn't need the Americans to buy shit as badly anymore.

"What's that you say" ol Chair Xi says, "The Americans raised tariffs? Well, my Canadian, Mexican, and European friends, our doors remain open as ever, step right over to the table and well give you a fairer shake on imports than those stubborn ol Yankees."

Not to mention Silicon Valley isn't happy with Donald's insinuations. Piss em off enough, maybe the "unicorn wunderkind" will move the whole kit and kaboodle of their companies into more legally friendly pastures.

There's an old saying in the tech world: "The Internet interprets censorship as damage, and routes around it." Perhaps the same will be said of international trade and trade walls. What's all the tariffs in the world mean when everyone else decides trade with the US isn't worth it anymore?
We don't buy Chinese steel. Fuck off. What do you do for a living anyway? Genuinely curious.
IT, what else? Programming, in specific, though I do hobby lobby in robotics for fun as well. I'm in the profession of making all of your professions obsolete, and it can't come soon enough, imo.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:34 pm

Zlaxer wrote:Splain to me how 30%+ tariffs on Chinese shit won't make them more expensive then US goods?
The US dollar is +684% against the Yuan, a 30% tariff makes that +654%; big whoop.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:35 pm

KerningChameleon wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:
KerningChameleon wrote:There's an important distinction to be made here, I feel: The American Dollar is strong, the American Consumer is not.

Once was a time American movies had to be made for American audiences. Now, a Hollywood flick can bomb in the Land o the Free, but sell gangbusters in the overseas market. Producers scrape and bow to get their films content cleared with the PRC. Fact of the matter is, the world doesn't need the Americans to buy shit as badly anymore.

"What's that you say" ol Chair Xi says, "The Americans raised tariffs? Well, my Canadian, Mexican, and European friends, our doors remain open as ever, step right over to the table and well give you a fairer shake on imports than those stubborn ol Yankees."

Not to mention Silicon Valley isn't happy with Donald's insinuations. Piss em off enough, maybe the "unicorn wunderkind" will move the whole kit and kaboodle of their companies into more legally friendly pastures.

There's an old saying in the tech world: "The Internet interprets censorship as damage, and routes around it." Perhaps the same will be said of international trade and trade walls. What's all the tariffs in the world mean when everyone else decides trade with the US isn't worth it anymore?
We don't buy Chinese steel. Fuck off. What do you do for a living anyway? Genuinely curious.
IT, what else? Programming, in specific, though I do hobby lobby in robotics for fun as well. I'm in the profession of making all of your professions obsolete, and it can't come soon enough, imo.
Yeah.