I Am the Least Racist Person You Know

[Okeefenokee]

Iraq is nowhere close to being atomized. You're talking out your ass about a place you know shit about.

[Smitty-48]

Iraq is nowhere close to being atomized. You're talking out your ass about a place you know shit about.

I don't think you understand what atomized means in the political context, so it's you who don't know shit about it, and your ants eye view of Iraq from deployment there, does not make you a professor of Iraqi history, so your blatant appeal to authority fallacy doesn't even have any authority to it, clown.

[Okeefenokee]

Iraq is nowhere close to being atomized. You're talking out your ass about a place you know shit about.

I don't think you understand what atomized means in the political context, so it's you who don't know shit about it, and your ants eye view of Iraq from deployment there, does not make you a professor of Iraqi history, so your blatant appeal to authority fallacy doesn't even have any authority to it, clown.

It means breaking down social ties, which is how you've been using it in regards to black americans consistently, and is not the case at all in Iraq.

[Smitty-48]

Iraq is nowhere close to being atomized. You're talking out your ass about a place you know shit about.

I don't think you understand what atomized means in the political context, so it's you who don't know shit about it, and your ants eye view of Iraq from deployment there, does not make you a professor of Iraqi history, so your blatant appeal to authority fallacy doesn't even have any authority to it, clown.

It means breaking down social ties, which is how you've been using it in regards to black americans consistently, and is not the case at all in Iraq.

In the case of Iraq the political ties are broken down, the tribal and sectarian ties remain, but they rather act as a barrier to political cohesion rather than an enabler.

Iraq decapitated, has broken down into tribal and sectarian factions, classic case of imperialist divide and conquer, and how the British actually set Iraq up to be in the first place.

[Okeefenokee]

I don't think you understand what atomized means in the political context, so it's you who don't know shit about it, and your ants eye view of Iraq from deployment there, does not make you a professor of Iraqi history, so your blatant appeal to authority fallacy doesn't even have any authority to it, clown.

It means breaking down social ties, which is how you've been using it in regards to black americans consistently, and is not the case at all in Iraq.

In the case of Iraq the political ties are broken down, the tribal and sectarian ties remain, but they rather act as a barrier to political cohesion rather than an enabler.

There never were any political ties, because there never were any politics.

Next thing you'll be telling us the Shia-Sunni divide was a CIA plot too.

[Smitty-48]

There never were any political ties, because there never were any politics.

The Baath Party was an entirely political animal, Pan Arab National Socialists, tribal and sectarian underpinnings notwithstanding.

[Smitty-48]

You seem to invoke two broad strokes fallacies here, there are no racial politics in America, and there are no politics whatsoever in the Middle East, therefore Americans are completely absolved of any consequences of their political actions thereto, which, if somebody else is buying what you're selling, more power to them, but it's not making any headway with me, it's farcical nonsense on the face it.

[Okeefenokee]

Smitty: black americans are atomized.

Meaning: no social cohesion.

Understood: great political cohesion.

Smitty: iraqis are atomized.

Meaning: no political cohesion.

Understanding: great social cohesion within each sect.

Ruling: Lefty mouth piece is flailing and changing his definitions to spout nonsense.

also, the CIA invented the Shia/Sunni rift to atomize Iraq.

herp a derp

[Smitty-48]

The cohesion within the Iraqi factions is hardly a given, the factions within Iraq are internecine to the extreme, plenty of intertribal and intersect violence and disorder, a constant cycle of strongmen attempting to wrest control from competitors within their own ranks, what agency the Iraqis have within that context seems limited to say the least.

In terms of black Americans, the social cohesion breakdown was asserted by you, when you described the black community as "tar pits of criminality, illiteracy, and absentee fathers", so you've come full circle to contradict yourself at this point.

[heydaralon]

Whoever loses this great race debate has to pay my fee for moderating it. Just a heads up. I'd like to point out there are many exceptional people of color in the United States:

Harriet Tubman was the first black woman on the 20 dollar bill for instance.