Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

[ssu]

If Trump were completely cleared in this investigation you'd still whine about Russia until the cows come home, and so will the Democrats. You'll move the goalposts like the Russophobe that you are, empty innuendo is no doubt enough for you and it's certainly enough for the clickbait media.

Nope.

That's how your fellow Americans that basically hate the other party act.

Moving goalposts is the US way of politics. Just look at Benghazi investigation that turned into the email investigation...

The Republicans are far more tougher. The dems are more lame, but have learned their lesson.

[PartyOf5]

So what's the deal with the two FISA warrants? One was declined but I thought one was cleared.

That's what I'm wondering too. If we had any actual journalists in this country this would be clearer.

[PartyOf5]

Moving goalposts is the US way of politics. Just look at Benghazi investigation that turned into the email investigation...

You keep mentioning Hillary's emails like it wasn't proven that she violated rules in setting up a private server in a closest in her house and used it for government business. Experts have also stated on record that her server was likely hacked into. That was a real thing, not empty innuendo.

[StCapps]

If Trump were completely cleared in this investigation you'd still whine about Russia until the cows come home, and so will the Democrats. You'll move the goalposts like the Russophobe that you are, empty innuendo is no doubt enough for you and it's certainly enough for the clickbait media.

Nope.

That's how your fellow Americans that basically hate the other party act.

Moving goalposts is the US way of politics. Just look at Benghazi investigation that turned into the email investigation...

The Republicans are far more tougher. The dems are more lame, but have learned their lesson.

I hold you to that when it's confirmed this Russia-Trump connection is nothingburger.

[Dand]

Those assuming this the Russia-Trump thing will go away soon are wrong. Even if Trump tweets outrageous things.

Well, empty innuendo can go on as long as people keep talking about it. That's absolutely true.

Empty innuendo?

Lol.

Oh yes, empty innuendo like this Clinton emails?

Let's see. It won't be over for a long time. As Comey noted in the hearing, for a counterespionage investigation this has gone on for a short time. And now we know officially that the FBI is investigating Trump's connections. If that wasn't clear to people.

The Clinton's email server was an actual physical thing. No one debates whether they existed, only what could have been the contents of the many emails that were destroyed and never disclosed.

I get that you want it to be a partisan thing and imply "Dems had a scandal and Repubs had a scandal so it's all the same" but that's a nonsensical argument. Reality and evidence just aren't as important to you.

[Dand]

So what's the deal with the two FISA warrants? One was declined but I thought one was cleared.

It's classified and we don't know the truth. A reporter did write a story saying that one was denied in the summer and a second was approved in October but we have no way to know if it's true.

[Okeefenokee]

As Comey noted in the hearing, for a counterespionage investigation this has gone on for a short time. And now we know officially that the FBI is investigating Trump's connections. If that wasn't clear to people.

If Trump were completely cleared in this investigation you'd still whine about Russia until the cows come home, and so will the Democrats. You'll move the goalposts like the Russophobe that you are, empty innuendo is no doubt enough for you and it's certainly enough for the clickbait media.

I have no idea how they can't see this.

We are way past people realizing the russia boogeyman was bullshit from the get go, and anyone who continues to cry wolf over it is immediately recognized as a MSM consuming loon.

[TheReal_ND]

So what's the deal with the two FISA warrants? One was declined but I thought one was cleared.

It's classified and we don't know the truth. A reporter did write a story saying that one was denied in the summer and a second was approved in October but we have no way to know if it's true.

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume Comey wasn't specifically asked about this.

[Dand]

So what's the deal with the two FISA warrants? One was declined but I thought one was cleared.

It's classified and we don't know the truth. A reporter did write a story saying that one was denied in the summer and a second was approved in October but we have no way to know if it's true.

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume Comey wasn't specifically asked about this.

He was asked and "I can't comment on it" is what he said about all speciic FISA questions.

He used complete weasel words to say that Obama couldn't have wiretapped Trump unilaterally and would've needed cooperation from other leaders like the Attorney General, etc. As if the idea that Lynch and Obama would cooperate is impossible. Comey couldn't even deny that BHO tapped Trump, he only denied that BHO, acting alone, could legally have done so. There was extremely little information actually provided by Comey and Rogers.

I think the notable statements from Comey were these
-The FBI does have an ongoing investigation into potential cooperation between Trump campaign and Russia
-No hacking effected any voting processes or tallying in any state

You can tell he's full of shit because Comey said that he thinks Russia's goal is to divide America and sow doubt in our government (even moreso than to help Trump be elected. He specifically said this.) while at the same time saying explicitly that he will break protocol about not commenting on ongoing investigations in order to say the FBI is investigating Trump/Russia. Congressmen even pressured him about those two contradictory statements and pointed out that he is directly causing that doubt in our government by confirming the investigation without giving any more info, no comment. When congressmen told him that the IC leakers also undermine trust in our government, Comey said that he would not confirm if there was an investigation to find the leakers, following protocol of not commenting on ongoing investigations.

And Clapper has made a statement that he had no evidence of Trump/Russia connections, that was pointed out to Comey and he had no comment.

[adwinistrator]

I have been authorized by the DOJ to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election – and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government. And whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russian’s efforts. As with any counterintelligence investigation, this will also include an assessment of whether any crimes were committed.

-FBI Director James Comey