Earth matters

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Re: Earth matters

Post by Otern » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:48 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:47 am
Did I say stop all meat production?
Factory farmed beef is very high in CO2 emissions, that's what goes in your fast food burgers.
Sheep release large amounts of methane and are often raised on hillsides which used to be covered in trees.
The land used for growing animal fodder can be used to produce fodder for humans and eventually, it can be farmed with electric tractors using cleaner energy.
A carbon tax would reflect the true cost of meat production and encourage people to think more about what they eat.
Rotting forests release large amounts of methane too. Grazing animals is actually a way to increase the carbon content of the soil.

If you want to decrease CO2 emissions, it's better to go from pork and chicken to cow and sheep. And not all cow meat is produced through factory farming, not even in the worst offending countries like the US. Pigs and chicken require high quality fodder, but ruminants can use grass, which is worthless to most species, and turn it into food. And yes, they do release some methane, but they're also taking up as much carbon as they release.

And no, the land used for growing animal fodder, that is grass, can't always be used for growing fodder for humans. For example in Norway, there are very few areas where it's possible to grow anything at all, but there's grass there. The only way to get food for humans out of those areas, is to let animals graze there and turn cellulose into meat.

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Re: Earth matters

Post by clubgop » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:53 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:05 am
I care only for the future of your grandchildren and biodiversity. I care little for your soul.
Of course he cares about the children. 8-) And when doing what he is doing the soul is forfeit.

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Re: Earth matters

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:53 am

There used to be 60 million buffalo in the United States. We killed them all to fuck with the Indians. Now we have about 90 million head of cattle.

A net increase of about 30 million if you assume cows and buffalo are about equal (probably not, since buffalo were massive compared to the typical beef cattle).

Ain't a thing. Whatever.

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Re: Earth matters

Post by PartyOf5 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:06 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:47 am
Did I say stop all meat production?
You said you were coming for our beef and to be warned. To be fair, you probably meant you were coming for our little boys and beef is your pet name for them.

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Re: Earth matters

Post by Fife » Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:25 am

Motte-griffo is a shitty troll. At least make a hint at an effort before retreating to the "who, me" gag.

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Re: Earth matters

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:10 pm

Fife wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:25 am
Motte-griffo is a shitty troll. At least make a hint at an effort before retreating to the "who, me" gag.
Who, me?
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: Earth matters

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:18 pm

Suck it snowflake

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Re: Earth matters

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:26 pm

Gay.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: Earth matters

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Re: Earth matters

Post by clubgop » Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:14 pm

PartyOf5 wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:06 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:47 am
Did I say stop all meat production?
You said you were coming for our beef and to be warned. To be fair, you probably meant you were coming for our little boys and beef is your pet name for them.
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