Civil War Doomsday Clock

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by C-Mag » Mon May 20, 2019 10:23 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 9:17 am

The point is, Martin was responsible for a major animation software kit in the 1990s. That's not resting on a degree. He built commercial software. Was successful.

I can tell you about software engineering from the perspective of the guy writing code in a cubicle. Martin ran the entire business and put something to market.
If you are a millennial or younger you don't understand the amazement of the time when computers went from these massive things in big buildings to desktop, to an operating system that was useful to the average person...……………… why, the average guy doesn't code. And the entertainment, WOW.
I still get happy feelings when I remember first seeing games like Battle of Britain in 1989.


For a guy like me, to actually be able to fly a spitfire and shoot down Henkels or Dive bomb with a Stuka was irresistable. This is to say nothing of what it did for Construction Engineering that I am involved in. The time savings from hand drafting to AutoCad is incredible.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon May 20, 2019 10:40 am



Start opting out of the corporate world as much as you can.

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by C-Mag » Mon May 20, 2019 11:03 am

It's tough to get away from the corporate world
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In this case Burger King is owned by RBI in Canada, which is owned by Golman Sachs.

If you are not increasing your self sufficiency, you are just another willing supporter of global corporatism.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by The Conservative » Mon May 20, 2019 11:08 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 9:17 am
The Conservative wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 9:10 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 6:39 am

PhD in Computer Science who also wrote over a 1,000,000 lines of code. Professional Engineer who wired my house and built a computer from scratch. (I mean I etched the circuit board and soldered diodes for ROM.)

p.s. The quote's good though.
I have 30 years in the IT field. Director of IT/Infrastructure of a multi-Billion dollar company. (30k users.) and in charge of over 100 people world wide.

I’ve designed infrastructures from scratch, I’ve built network systems that have to work through the great firewall of China.

I’ve built networks and systems for homes, wiring the entire house.

I don’t have a degree, what I have is decades is sweat and failures, as well as successes to fall back on. Reading hundreds of books and websites to fill the gaps of my knowledge.

I’ve also written 150k lines of code for a single app I created from scratch. (Inventory control system software)

The point is, that education gets you in the door, experience keeps you there.

I am not saying what you have done isn’t impressive, but the point is that people with real world experience sometimes is just as useful as someone with an advanced degree.

PS. Thanks about the “quote”

The point is, Martin was responsible for a major animation software kit in the 1990s. That's not resting on a degree. He built commercial software. Was successful.

I can tell you about software engineering from the perspective of the guy writing code in a cubicle. Martin ran the entire business and put something to market.
My software is used by Intel and Tel-Nexx... can I use that as a successful credential?

The only reason I am not doing that full time is that, well I designed the software internally is because I made it for the company I was working for at the time back in 2002, and they forced me to give the code to the companies so they could customize it for their purposes. (Because it was theirs to do with)

The software kept track of over 50,000 individual parts, 15,000 BOM's and ordered hardware and other material as it became low from usage. It also kept track of where a unit was being built, who was working on it, and what they were working on. It also figured the cost of material waste.

It created reports for the CEO, CFO, and the floor managers to see where everything was, what was on time, what was late and also to keep track of patterns (sales and manufacturing). It also kept track of all hardware such as screws, etc by weight and had a 99.6% accuracy.

I had my success ripped from me. But yeah, he was successful... I got screwed, it doesn't mean my ability or credentials are any less impressive.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon May 20, 2019 11:10 am

At best, you wrote some scripts as an employee for some businesses that currently use them in their business operations. You did NOT write production code. Nor are you responsible for an entire software product sold to customers. This is your "chef" moment all over again.

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by The Conservative » Mon May 20, 2019 11:11 am

C-Mag wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 10:23 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 9:17 am

The point is, Martin was responsible for a major animation software kit in the 1990s. That's not resting on a degree. He built commercial software. Was successful.

I can tell you about software engineering from the perspective of the guy writing code in a cubicle. Martin ran the entire business and put something to market.
If you are a millennial or younger you don't understand the amazement of the time when computers went from these massive things in big buildings to desktop, to an operating system that was useful to the average person...……………… why, the average guy doesn't code. And the entertainment, WOW.
I still get happy feelings when I remember first seeing games like Battle of Britain in 1989.


For a guy like me, to actually be able to fly a spitfire and shoot down Henkels or Dive bomb with a Stuka was irresistable. This is to say nothing of what it did for Construction Engineering that I am involved in. The time savings from hand drafting to AutoCad is incredible.
I loved that game.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by C-Mag » Mon May 20, 2019 11:48 am

The Conservative wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:11 am
C-Mag wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 10:23 am

I still get happy feelings when I remember first seeing games like Battle of Britain in 1989.


For a guy like me, to actually be able to fly a spitfire and shoot down Henkels or Dive bomb with a Stuka was irresistable. This is to say nothing of what it did for Construction Engineering that I am involved in. The time savings from hand drafting to AutoCad is incredible.
I loved that game.
It was one of the great early ones. I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure it pushed the entire industry forward.

I flew mostly Krauts. Just because I liked the idea of being able to change history.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by heydaralon » Mon May 20, 2019 1:42 pm

"Martin deleted 2 of my posts for some reason."


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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by The Conservative » Mon May 20, 2019 1:49 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:10 am
At best, you wrote some scripts as an employee for some businesses that currently use them in their business operations. You did NOT write production code. Nor are you responsible for an entire software product sold to customers. This is your "chef" moment all over again.
At best? Pfft. I designed the GUI, the report layouts, I spent six months just nailing down the formats for eases of use for the people that would be looking at it.

The scripts I wrote as you put it took the raw data and plastered it into spreadsheets and charts for end users to comprehend.

That was as most 2000 lines of scripting, not coding.

Just because I did something that counters your world, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Some people in this world are go-getters.

I spent a full year and a half on this program, so please don’t tell me I was a script kiddy.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by heydaralon » Mon May 20, 2019 1:55 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 1:49 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:10 am
At best, you wrote some scripts as an employee for some businesses that currently use them in their business operations. You did NOT write production code. Nor are you responsible for an entire software product sold to customers. This is your "chef" moment all over again.
At best? Pfft. I designed the GUI, the report layouts, I spent six months just nailing down the formats for eases of use for the people that would be looking at it.

The scripts I wrote as you put it took the raw data and plastered it into spreadsheets and charts for end users to comprehend.

That was as most 2000 lines of scripting, not coding.

Just because I did something that counters your world, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Some people in this world are go-getters.

I spent a full year and a half on this program, so please don’t tell me I was a script kiddy.
I have made powerpoints that in some cases contained over 50 slides. Just to put it into perspective, a slide would easily be able to hold hundreds of lines of code. Of course, they didn't because that would leave no room for the graphs and charts, which my powerpoints were full of. Shithead.
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