Bring on the Bushie Neocons, Lockheed Martin shareholders approve, although, why the guy would want the job in this WH is beyond me, I guess they can't resist the draw of being "in the loop".adwinistrator wrote:President Donald Trump offered the job of national security advisor to retired Vice Adm. Robert Harward on Monday night, and was a bit surprised when Harward responded by saying he needed a couple of days to think it over.
If, as expected, Harward accepts the job today, he is likely to bring in his own team, from deputy on down, with a focus on national security types with some experience under their belts.
I think he would look especially to people he knows from his time working for the George W. Bush NSC from 2003 to 2005. No more Fox News talking heads. Instead, I think he would try to take a Scowcroftian approach to trying to run the interagency policy formulation process — deliberate, rigorous, careful. Just how that will fit with the style of the Twitterer-in-Chief, I don’t know.
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This is the message to Trump by the Establishment. Get on board, put our people in power or we will take you down.Smitty-48 wrote:Bring on the Bushie Neocons, Lockheed Martin shareholders approve, although, why the guy would want the job in this WH is beyond me, I guess they can't resist the draw of being "in the loop".adwinistrator wrote:President Donald Trump offered the job of national security advisor to retired Vice Adm. Robert Harward on Monday night, and was a bit surprised when Harward responded by saying he needed a couple of days to think it over.
If, as expected, Harward accepts the job today, he is likely to bring in his own team, from deputy on down, with a focus on national security types with some experience under their belts.
I think he would look especially to people he knows from his time working for the George W. Bush NSC from 2003 to 2005. No more Fox News talking heads. Instead, I think he would try to take a Scowcroftian approach to trying to run the interagency policy formulation process — deliberate, rigorous, careful. Just how that will fit with the style of the Twitterer-in-Chief, I don’t know.
Now we get to watch and see who wins.
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Maybe they will both win and the Democrats will lose.C-Mag wrote:This is the message to Trump by the Establishment. Get on board, put our people in power or we will take you down.
Now we get to watch and see who wins.
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It's better for Trump anyways, he needs some "Scowcroftian" assistance, the Alt-Right crew doesn't know what the fuck they're doing, they were fine for getting elected, but they're dead weight now.
Jettison the Sturmabteilung, bring on the Shutzstaffel.
Jettison the Sturmabteilung, bring on the Shutzstaffel.
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Well yeah, Trump has never spent a day in government before January 20th. He's a newb and he's trying to bring in like minded people. It's really hard to judge everything right now. The Establishment is overblowing every little thing, they are in panic mode.Smitty-48 wrote:It's better for Trump anyways, he needs some "Scowcroftian" assistance, the Alt-Right crew doesn't know what the fuck they're doing, they were fine for getting elected, but they're dead weight now.
I learn more from watching the reaction to Trump than trying to judge the man himself. I see an Establishment that feels they have to either coopt Trump or destroy him because they view him as a threat to their power.
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The Establishment is not monolithic, the key for Trump is to coopt the Establishment, get some Neocons to come over to Trump's side, then the Establishment will have to accept Trump, by the end of the year, it will be the Bush Administration 2.0
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Good Points.Smitty-48 wrote:The Establishment is not monolithic, the key for Trump is to coopt the Establishment, get some Neocons to come over to Trump's side, then the Establishment will have to accept Trump, by the end of the year, it will be the Bush Administration 2.0
One of things that seem pretty universal about Trump is people that meet with him usually walk out of the meeting looking surprised and saying they think he can succeed. Look at the Jim Brown, Ray Lewis meeting to name one.
This is a great strategy for Trump. I hadn't thought of it that way.
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I think Trump just wants to make peace at this point, he doesn't want to spend his whole term fighting an insurgency, if he brings in the Neocons, the Establishment will have to lay off, Trump needs to split the Neocons from the Democrats, and then he's sitting pretty, his problem is not the Democrats, he needs to find a way to bury the hatchet with the GOP, so that they will rally around him, once he loads it up with Bushies 2.0, guys like McCain and Graham will cool their jets, and it doesn't really prevent Trump from doing the things he promised to do, all these beefs are over Nat Sec issues, there's no resistance on the economic front.C-Mag wrote:Good Points.Smitty-48 wrote:The Establishment is not monolithic, the key for Trump is to coopt the Establishment, get some Neocons to come over to Trump's side, then the Establishment will have to accept Trump, by the end of the year, it will be the Bush Administration 2.0
One of things that seem pretty universal about Trump is people that meet with him usually walk out of the meeting looking surprised and saying they think he can succeed. Look at the Jim Brown, Ray Lewis meeting to name one.
This is a great strategy for Trump. I hadn't thought of it that way.
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Basically, the Necons want their Cold War 2.0, Cold War 2.0 is critical to Neocon interests, they are not going to accept being friendly with the Russians, that is what is setting them off, so long as Trump disavows the Russians and gives the Neocons their cold war, they'll be happy enough.
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I was responding to:PartyOf5 wrote:A page ago you were holding your breath about the changes to come. Now you claim he can do whatever he wants. Just pick a personality and only let that one post here from now on.GrumpyCatFace wrote: Apparently, we elected a king... Whoever wins just runs shit as they see fit.
Any pointers on surviving in a monarchy?
..I may have misinterpreted. You meant 'change' in the literal sense, and not 'good change', correct?That non-so-clever clown outflanked both parties for months and got elected. Enjoy Flynn resigning while the rest of us enjoy the many and more significant changes to come.
Cutting your fingers off is, indeed, a change.