We Need To Export MAGA to Canada.

[Viktorthepirate]

Well 10 million dollars is ludicrous.

But we don't need to go all Soviet and keep child Soldiers imprisoned for a decade after what they did.

[TheReal_ND]

Nice moderacy there guyo.

I tend to agree but there has to be a middle ground to begin with. It seems like there is none anymore with these people. The standard answer to everything for them is all people deserve our civil liberties and I just want to know when we can actually practice prosecution if we can't even do it against foreign child soldiers.

Probably didn't say that good but it's something I've been kicking around in my head for a little while.

[Okeefenokee]

kids today have it so easy.

[katarn]

kids today have it so easy.

He still had the 10+ years in that prison. "Easy"

[Smitty-48]

Well 10 million dollars is ludicrous.

Not when it was to settle a $20 million dollar lawsuit which the government was going to lose, on top of the legal fees which they would incur, which would also be in the millions, so basically just cutting their losses.

The government was dirty, he had them dead to rights, they had no defense, in fact, criminal charges for government officials could have come into play, so they're running from Omar Kadr now, tails between their legs, here's $10 million bucks, to make this go away, since if it goes to court, not only will it cost more than twice that, but once the whole thing comes out in court, perp walks could follow.

The Americans were torturing him, the Canadian officials were complicit, the evidence is irrefutable, he's getting his money, that's a done deal, it's just a question of whether or not anybody from the government would be so exposed as to end up in the penitentiary for it.

Suffice to say, the government didn't want this case getting anywhere near a judge, as once it goes there, the whole ball of yarn could unravel. $10 million dollars; politicians and bureaucrats paying hush money to keep themselves out of the dock, on the taxpayers dime.

If the Americans hadn't tortured him and/or CSIS had just stayed out of it, he'd probably still be in jail, but since they couldn't follow their own laws, he walks on a technicality, with $10 million for his troubles, either the Crown heads this off at the pass, or a judge will do it for them at over twice the price, after airing their dirty laundry in court.

Also the American dirty laundry btw, don't doubt that Washington asked the Canadian government to just make this go away as well, because they most assuredly did, after spending years bending themselves into a pretz to keep it out of US civilian courts, not to mention that if he was ever able to sue in an American jurisdiction, he could get a hell of a lot more than $10 million. Why do you think Washington would even agree to send him back to Canada when they well knew that this would be the result? Wanted him and the whole sordid affair out of their hair; just make it go away.

If he was suing you in your court, he'd be suing for a $100 million, but I guess the Canadian taxpayer is going to have to pick the tab up on this one for you. You're welcome.

[Viktorthepirate]

Well 10 million dollars is ludicrous.

Not when it was to settle a $20 million dollar lawsuit which the government was going to lose, on top of the legal fees which they would incur, which would also be in the millions, so basically just cutting their losses.

The government was dirty, he had them dead to rights, they had no defense, in fact, criminal charges for government officials could have come into play, so they're running from Omar Kadr now, tails between their legs, here's $10 million bucks, to make this go away, since if it goes to court, not only will it cost more than twice that, but once the whole thing comes out in court, perp walks could follow.

The Americans were torturing him, the Canadian officials were complicit, the evidence is irrefutable, he's getting his money, that's a done deal, it's just a question of whether or not anybody from the government would be so exposed as to end up in the penitentiary for it.

Suffice to say, the government didn't want this case getting anywhere near a judge, as once it goes there, the whole ball of yarn could unravel. $10 million dollars; politicians and bureaucrats paying hush money to keep themselves out of the dock, on the taxpayers dime.

If the Americans hadn't tortured him and/or CSIS had just stayed out of it, he'd probably still be in jail, but since they couldn't follow their own laws, he walks on a technicality, with $10 million for his troubles, either the Crown heads this off at the pass, or a judge will do it for them at over twice the price, after airing their dirty laundry in court.

Also the American dirty laundry btw, don't doubt that Washington asked the Canadian government to just make this go away as well, because they most assuredly did, after spending years bending themselves into a pretz to keep it out of US civilian courts, not to mention that if he was ever able to sue in an American jurisdiction, he could get a hell of a lot more than $10 million. Why do you think Washington would even agree to send him back to Canada when they well knew that this would be the result? Wanted him and the whole sordid affair out of their hair; just make it go away.

If he was suing you in your court, he'd be suing for a $100 million, but I guess the Canadian taxpayer is going to have to pick the tab up on this one for you. You're welcome.

As a practical matter you're right.

Still ludicrous

[Smitty-48]

Not as ludicrous as the case that was presented against him, where the US Army itself stated in its report that he was not the individual who threw the grenade and in fact was just a kid hiding in the compound when the Americans kicked the door and then came in and shot him... followed by the US government essentially torturing a confession out of him, then convicting him solely on the basis of that.

Based on the conduct of the United States government, I find him to be not guilty due to a lack evidence, and for being tortured while in custody with the complicity of the Canadian government, I find the ten million dollar settlement to be warranted, and in fact generous to the Canadian taxpayer on his part, since he could have gotten more.

[Viktorthepirate]

Not as ludicrous as the case that was presented against him, where the US Army itself stated in its report that he was not the individual who threw the grenade and in fact was just a kid hiding in the compound when the Americans kicked the door and then came in and shot him... followed by the US government essentially torturing a confession out of him, then convicting him solely on the basis of that.

Based on the conduct of the United States government, I find him to be not guilty due to a lack evidence, and for being tortured while in custody with the complicity of the Canadian government, I find the ten million dollar settlement to be warranted, and in fact generous to the Canadian taxpayer on his part, since he could have gotten more.

Wow, didn't know that. If true, the US should be footing the bill.

[Ex-California]

Not as ludicrous as the case that was presented against him, where the US Army itself stated in its report that he was not the individual who threw the grenade and in fact was just a kid hiding in the compound when the Americans kicked the door and then came in and shot him... followed by the US government essentially torturing a confession out of him, then convicting him solely on the basis of that.

Based on the conduct of the United States government, I find him to be not guilty due to a lack evidence, and for being tortured while in custody with the complicity of the Canadian government, I find the ten million dollar settlement to be warranted, and in fact generous to the Canadian taxpayer on his part, since he could have gotten more.

Wow, didn't know that. If true, the US should be footing the bill.

He should be lucky he escaped to Canada. If he would have demanded that here we would have just extraordinarily renditioned him to Syria for torturing to death

[Viktorthepirate]

Remember when we weren't the torture country?