Civil War Doomsday Clock

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by StCapps » Thu May 02, 2019 6:22 pm

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Thu May 02, 2019 6:20 pm
Demographers did *not* argue the population bomb. That was liberal pop culture stemming from one liberal book.

Demographers have always said the population only increased due to declining death rates, and the birth rate was actually plummeting for generations now.

This was not arcane knowledge either. One literally only needed to look at the data.
They still cried overpopulation from the rooftops, and then switched over to screaming underpopulation from the rooftops, all because they over-estimated the short term trends on both occasions. Malthus knows, Demographers suck at predicting the future, like they are really bad at it and always have been. Climate Scientists, same-same, shitty fortune tellers and always have been.

You might buy into their claims of Doomsday, but I do not, that's what they always fucking say, and they are always fucking wrong, every damn time. SIFCLFs gonna SIFCLF, who knew?
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu May 02, 2019 6:42 pm

StCapps wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 6:22 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 6:20 pm
Demographers did *not* argue the population bomb. That was liberal pop culture stemming from one liberal book.

Demographers have always said the population only increased due to declining death rates, and the birth rate was actually plummeting for generations now.

This was not arcane knowledge either. One literally only needed to look at the data.
They still cried overpopulation from the rooftops, and then switched over to screaming underpopulation from the rooftops, all because they over-estimated the short term trends on both occasions. Malthus knows, Demographers suck at predicting the future, like they are really bad at it and always have been. Climate Scientists, same-same, shitty fortune tellers and always have been.

You might buy into their claims of Doomsday, but I do not, that's what they always fucking say, and they are always fucking wrong, every damn time. SIFCLFs gonna SIFCLF, who knew?
Malthusian is right up there with Marxism and Nazism in terms of crazy utopian shit that gets innocent people gassed.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu May 02, 2019 6:42 pm

StCapps wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 6:22 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 6:20 pm
Demographers did *not* argue the population bomb. That was liberal pop culture stemming from one liberal book.

Demographers have always said the population only increased due to declining death rates, and the birth rate was actually plummeting for generations now.

This was not arcane knowledge either. One literally only needed to look at the data.
They still cried overpopulation from the rooftops, and then switched over to screaming underpopulation from the rooftops, all because they over-estimated the short term trends on both occasions. Malthus knows, Demographers suck at predicting the future, like they are really bad at it and always have been. Climate Scientists, same-same, shitty fortune tellers and always have been.

You might buy into their claims of Doomsday, but I do not, that's what they always fucking say, and they are always fucking wrong, every damn time. SIFCLFs gonna SIFCLF, who knew?
Not demographers. This outcome was buried in the data going back to the post-war period. The fertility rate is what matters. It's been on decline for over a century now.

There was a liberal book that came out called the Population Bomb that influenced all the liberals into thinking the world was overpopulated. It's part of the environmentalist worldview, which is not based on reality at all.

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by StCapps » Thu May 02, 2019 6:47 pm

Thomas Malthus was a demographer who cried overpopulation from the rooftops. Was he right? No he wasn't. Now Demographers cry underpopulation from the rooftops, are they right? No they aren't.

As usual claims of Doomsday by demographers have been greatly exaggerated. They are always full of shit and pretending the apocalypse is right around the corner, if you buy their bullshit, you're a gullible rube.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu May 02, 2019 7:10 pm

He was not a demographer.

The cyclical cycle of European civilization leading up to his thesis confirmed it. He just so happened to publish his ideas right when our people collectively escaped the Malthusian trap.

The same sub-Saharan Africans you like to pretend have the same average IQ as European people still remain within the Malthusian trap's grip.

Your people need genetic adaptations, including an elevated average IQ, to escape that sucker. Until that point, it's just endless cycles of population explosions followed by collapse. Go read the book Secular Cycles. https://www.amazon.com/Secular-Cycles-P ... 0691136963

We too may slide back into that cycle of population boom and collapse if we continue to allow the non-European world to colonize our countries. Only Europeans and East Asians got out of that trap.

But in terms of the so-called population bomb.. that began in the 1960s. Demographers were well aware by the 1960s that our fertility rate was declining. They weren't the ones talking about overpopulation. That was just liberals in general, and especially environmentalists. You will still hear a lot of libertarians saying it despite all the evidence, but they too are just a different kind of liberal.

The people who repeat that just hate humanity for one reason or another. It's usually a justification for something they know is morally wrong.

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by StCapps » Thu May 02, 2019 7:15 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 7:10 pm
He was not a demographer.

The cyclical cycle of European civilization leading up to his thesis confirmed it. He just so happened to publish his ideas right when our people collectively escaped the Malthusian trap.

The same sub-Saharan Africans you like to pretend have the same average IQ as European people still remain within the Malthusian trap's grip.

Your people need genetic adaptations, including an elevated average IQ, to escape that sucker. Until that point, it's just endless cycles of population explosions followed by collapse. Go read the book Secular Cycles. https://www.amazon.com/Secular-Cycles-P ... 0691136963

We too may slide back into that cycle of population boom and collapse if we continue to allow the non-European world to colonize our countries. Only Europeans and East Asians got out of that trap.

But in terms of the so-called population bomb.. that began in the 1960s. Demographers were well aware by the 1960s that our fertility rate was declining. They weren't the ones talking about overpopulation. That was just liberals in general, and especially environmentalists. You will still hear a lot of libertarians saying it despite all the evidence, but they too are just a different kind of liberal.

The people who repeat that just hate humanity for one reason or another. It's usually a justification for something they know is morally wrong.
What makes you think no demographers were liberal? As if there is no crossover, puh-lease.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu May 02, 2019 7:49 pm

Where did I say that?

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by StCapps » Thu May 02, 2019 10:31 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 7:49 pm
Where did I say that?
You said not demographers, but liberal demographers shouted it from the rooftops, so you're wrong that it's just liberals and not demographers, because there is plenty of crossover. Where do you think the liberals got their talking points from on the overpopulation tip? Liberal Demographers bro, not just environmentalists and shit.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri May 03, 2019 8:29 am

StCapps wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 10:31 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 7:49 pm
Where did I say that?
You said not demographers, but liberal demographers shouted it from the rooftops, so you're wrong that it's just liberals and not demographers, because there is plenty of crossover. Where do you think the liberals got their talking points from on the overpopulation tip? Liberal Demographers bro, not just environmentalists and shit.
Are you really this ignorant of even logic?

I said: liberals were the purveyors of the population bomb nonsense, not demographers. The guy who wrote the damned book disavowed the bullshit decades ago. He was a biologist, not a demographer. That book was a joke to demographers. They could see the fertility and death rates dropping. The population expansion was only an artifact of more old people not dying, not more people. Less people keep getting born. It has been that way for a long time.

That doesn't mean ALL liberals propagated it or that ALL demographers are not liberals. For fuck sake you are ignorant.

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by PartyOf5 » Fri May 03, 2019 1:05 pm

So now we have tent cities being built in Texas to handle all the illegals to match the ones in places like Seattle and San Francisco for the dug users.

This is where Democrats and lefties are leading us. We will all be living in tent city equality. At what point does Venezuela get their shit together and surpass the US, making it the more appealing place to live? 50 years?