Haven't been around for a while...

[K@th]

BTW, Trump promised me I would get tired of Winning, I'm still not tired, but we've had a few good dances

He has done nothing but rhetoric so far. My company went on a hiring/spending freeze in early February due to "the unstable nature of current environment." They are waiting at least a full year before spending money on anything. I work for a multi billion dollar company.

[StCapps]

Focus on Trump's actions instead of his words and your discussions will be a lot more fruitful. Protip.

Kath you are overreacting to his words and you focus all of your time discussing your reaction to them on this board, and then you go blaming everyone else for the lack of substance despite you demanding that it stay on this fruitless topic by only ever talking about that subject. Your misery is your own doing, if you want to talk about something else of substance, then no one is stopping you, you are just pretending that they are so you don't have to fell guilty about the lack of substance on your end.

[Martin Hash]

p.s. Post in other threads too.

Truly not sure I'm staying. I'm genuinely interested in having good discussion, but I spend way too much time trying to get agreement on basic facts. Painful. Not enjoyable. I love talking policy but loathe spending time looking for quotes to prove Trump lied about what he lied about. Too much, "nu uh he didn't say that." When. He. Said. It.

So this is kinda like a driveby?

[K@th]

p.s. Post in other threads too.

Truly not sure I'm staying. I'm genuinely interested in having good discussion, but I spend way too much time trying to get agreement on basic facts. Painful. Not enjoyable. I love talking policy but loathe spending time looking for quotes to prove Trump lied about what he lied about. Too much, "nu uh he didn't say that." When. He. Said. It.

So this is kinda like a driveby?

Maybe. I don't ever say I'm leaving forever, because that would be total crap. But I told you privately, this is a far more hostile environment than I like.

[StCapps]

But I told you privately, this is a far more hostile environment than I like.

The hostility is being projected on us, by you. We don't resent you Kath, but you sure as shit resent us, we're baffled by it frankly and baffled by your need to come up with negative label to lump all of our opinions into so you never have to discuss anything other than "Trump said something that pissed me off".

The very people you claim never make arguments in good faith and are just reactionist fanboys, actually argue in good faith and criticize both sides far more often than you do around here, physician heal thyself.

[K@th]

The very people you claim never make arguments in good faith, actually argue in good faith far more often than you do, physician heal thyself.

WTFEvah

I've complimented Trump at least three times, just in the last few pages. Your claim that I never say anything positive is nothing but a lie.

[StCapps]

The very people you claim never make arguments in good faith, actually argue in good faith far more often than you do, physician heal thyself.

WTFEvah

I've complimented Trump at least three times, just in the last few pages. Your claim that I never say anything positive is nothing but a lie.

Never claimed you never said anything nice about him, I said that even his biggest supporters on this forum trash him more than you praise him. You are more reactionary than the "reactionaries" that you decry. Back on the DCF pre-Trump you were one of the least reactionary members of the board, these days on the MHF you are one most reactionary members of the board, it's not us who have changed, it's you. You think we are all card carrying members of the duopoly now because we praise Trump more often than you do, but we aren't and your over-reaction to our perceived change in attitude has turned you into anti-Trump zealot.

This state of affairs is on you far more than it's on us. Look in the mirror before you go pointing fingers.

[C-Mag]

BTW, Trump promised me I would get tired of Winning, I'm still not tired, but we've had a few good dances

He has done nothing but rhetoric so far. My company went on a hiring/spending freeze in early February due to "the unstable nature of current environment." They are waiting at least a full year before spending money on anything. I work for a multi billion dollar company.

Not Fair, Not Fair.
That is inaccurate............... Bigly.

According the Washington Post who doesn't care for Trump, they have him accomplishing approximately 1 Campaign Promise every 10 days.
BAM !
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... e-tracker/

Hell even Dan Carlin said he can't fault him for doing what he said he would do.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Telling the truth when it won't help you or will hurt you is a even worst strategy than lying in politics. Those who only tell the truth don't get very far in politics, because always telling the truth is sure fire path to not getting elected.

What happened to "He's telling it like it is... He really cares about us.. dribble-dribble-derp"

I never said he really cared about you, I said he cared about himself and in caring for himself he'll do you more solids than any establishment politician is likely to do for you. Trump's interest coincide with the people's interests more than establishments of either political party does with the people, and that's at least a minor upgrade.

Don't put words in my mouth and pretend I thought Donald Trump only had the interests of the American people in his heart and nothing else, get fucking real. Trump is out for himself, his legacy and his family and I certainly never claimed otherwise.

I know that you didn't say that. It's the number 1 claim of his weeping sycophants.

[StCapps]

I know that you didn't say that. It's the number 1 claim of his weeping sycophants.

Where are these unthinking Trump sycophants? In your head? I don't see them posting on this forum.