Income Inequality

Zlaxer
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Re: Income Inequality

Post by Zlaxer » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:48 pm

jbird4049 wrote:
Zlaxer wrote:http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/n-y ... -1.2982399


Basically, union thugs loosing their pensions....sucks, but only a fool would have believed the government.....

As go the states.......

Saying people who worked for 30+ "thugs" is interesting. How do know you this?

As for fact that many pension funds have been delibertly underfunded by governments, who were often happy to do that because they could 1) not paid higher wages and 2) not raise taxes, and 3) use the money that was earmarked as extra revenue.

Also, Wall Street defrauded (lied) to pension management, and of course the 2008 crash did not help.

Just as one should be able to trust not to be murdered, or robbed, while walking down the street at noon, one should also trust the people running the entire financial system, or the government, should not either.

But then none of the crooks who crashed the system in '08 were frogmarched. They got to keep their bonuses too, and the politicians were usually re-elected. However, those nasty workers should have their pension fucked anyways.
Thugs - as in have cush jobs/hours and expect me to work till I drop so they can retire at 40......so yeah, thugs.....
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Re: Income Inequality

Post by apeman » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:49 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:I think the best solution to the unfunded pension disaster that looms over our near future is that, if (when) the problem becomes a federal issue, the pensions should be reduced to the same amount a disabled veteran gets, paid from the Treasury no differently than SSD or VA benefits. If it's good enough for the guy who has his legs blown off and lives with TBI for the rest of his life, then it's good enough for the marxist teachers who retire after fifteen years.
That actually strikes me as a possibility, it gives an emotional anchor point to what will be a scared, angry public.

But if you propose that, and I propose magically fixing it with no new taxes and no cuts to pensions, (while impossible) I will get the votes.

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by apeman » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:52 pm

Zlaxer wrote:Thugs - as in have crush jobs/hours and expect me to work till I drop so they can retire at 40......so yeah, thugs.....
Laborers (lowest classification, means you pick up scrap, etc) on publicly funded projects I'm involved with are mandated to get $50+/hour wages PLUS substantial benefits.

Of course, you gotta know someone to get the job.

Imagine making $400+/day plus benefits, with no school debt, no overnight stress about the big day tomorrow and upcoming deadlines, all you gotta do is show up.

Now remember we are paying for this out of our own, lesser, harder-fought wages.

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by SilverEagle » Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:06 pm

apeman wrote:
Zlaxer wrote:Thugs - as in have crush jobs/hours and expect me to work till I drop so they can retire at 40......so yeah, thugs.....
Laborers (lowest classification, means you pick up scrap, etc) on publicly funded projects I'm involved with are mandated to get $50+/hour wages PLUS substantial benefits.

Of course, you gotta know someone to get the job.

Imagine making $400+/day plus benefits, with no school debt, no overnight stress about the big day tomorrow and upcoming deadlines, all you gotta do is show up.

Now remember we are paying for this out of our own, lesser, harder-fought wages.
Are you trying to get my blood pressure up? Because you did. If you break my salary down per hour I make $35.58 plus benefits. :angry-fire:
Not to mention the fucktard that can't get my order right at McDonald's thinks he deserves $15 an hour. Honest to God real story from two weeks ago.....We go through the drive thru and first they forget one of my kids ranch but the best part is he mixed up my drink and my wife's drink. She order a large unsweet Iced Tea and I ordered a medium coke. I hear him say "oh large unsweet tea". So he took my coke, dumped it into a large cup and filled it the rest of the way with unsweet tea. Yep he deserves $15 and hour with that level of service.
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Re: Income Inequality

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:07 pm

apeman wrote:
Zlaxer wrote:Thugs - as in have crush jobs/hours and expect me to work till I drop so they can retire at 40......so yeah, thugs.....
Laborers (lowest classification, means you pick up scrap, etc) on publicly funded projects I'm involved with are mandated to get $50+/hour wages PLUS substantial benefits.

Of course, you gotta know someone to get the job.

Imagine making $400+/day plus benefits, with no school debt, no overnight stress about the big day tomorrow and upcoming deadlines, all you gotta do is show up.

Now remember we are paying for this out of our own, lesser, harder-fought wages.
NYC remains the tumor hanging off the end of this country. Fuck.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by SilverEagle » Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:13 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
apeman wrote:
Zlaxer wrote:Thugs - as in have crush jobs/hours and expect me to work till I drop so they can retire at 40......so yeah, thugs.....
Laborers (lowest classification, means you pick up scrap, etc) on publicly funded projects I'm involved with are mandated to get $50+/hour wages PLUS substantial benefits.

Of course, you gotta know someone to get the job.

Imagine making $400+/day plus benefits, with no school debt, no overnight stress about the big day tomorrow and upcoming deadlines, all you gotta do is show up.

Now remember we are paying for this out of our own, lesser, harder-fought wages.
NYC remains the tumor hanging off the end of this country. Fuck.
Yeah and CA is the giant dangling hemorrhoid!
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Re: Income Inequality

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:15 pm

Hopefully New York doesn't have voter ID laws either, so when they vote to secede, we can pull another Californian operation on them. Sorry Alexander, but you have to go.

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by apeman » Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:25 pm

SilverEagle wrote:
apeman wrote:
Zlaxer wrote:Thugs - as in have crush jobs/hours and expect me to work till I drop so they can retire at 40......so yeah, thugs.....
Laborers (lowest classification, means you pick up scrap, etc) on publicly funded projects I'm involved with are mandated to get $50+/hour wages PLUS substantial benefits.

Of course, you gotta know someone to get the job.

Imagine making $400+/day plus benefits, with no school debt, no overnight stress about the big day tomorrow and upcoming deadlines, all you gotta do is show up.

Now remember we are paying for this out of our own, lesser, harder-fought wages.
Are you trying to get my blood pressure up? Because you did. If you break my salary down per hour I make $35.58 plus benefits. :angry-fire:
Not to mention the fucktard that can't get my order right at McDonald's thinks he deserves $15 an hour. Honest to God real story from two weeks ago.....We go through the drive thru and first they forget one of my kids ranch but the best part is he mixed up my drink and my wife's drink. She order a large unsweet Iced Tea and I ordered a medium coke. I hear him say "oh large unsweet tea". So he took my coke, dumped it into a large cup and filled it the rest of the way with unsweet tea. Yep he deserves $15 and hour with that level of service.
I am actually trying to get people fire up. This story is guaranteed to get GCF fired up every time, I know that before I tell it.

The idea that taxpayers are raided to benefit narrow special interests is limited to NY and CA, however, is simply retarded.

IT IS LITERALLY WHAT GOVT DOES, EVERYWHERE. It is essentially the prime directive of govt.

...

As a naive young lawyer I had an arbitration at the Carpenter's Union in manhattan. At this point I was skeptical of these unions, but also thought they stuck up for the little guy against "evil corporation" (basically, assume I was GCF).

After waiting my turn for entry, etc., someone came out to get me and they led me through AN INDOOR ATRIUM.

Because, well, the administrators sticking up for the little guy need to skim off enough to install an indoor fucking atrium in the center of manhattan.
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Re: Income Inequality

Post by apeman » Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:26 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
apeman wrote:
Zlaxer wrote:Thugs - as in have crush jobs/hours and expect me to work till I drop so they can retire at 40......so yeah, thugs.....
Laborers (lowest classification, means you pick up scrap, etc) on publicly funded projects I'm involved with are mandated to get $50+/hour wages PLUS substantial benefits.

Of course, you gotta know someone to get the job.

Imagine making $400+/day plus benefits, with no school debt, no overnight stress about the big day tomorrow and upcoming deadlines, all you gotta do is show up.

Now remember we are paying for this out of our own, lesser, harder-fought wages.
NYC remains the tumor hanging off the end of this country. Fuck.
These project are funded by the state, not feds.

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:26 pm

apeman wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
apeman wrote:
Laborers (lowest classification, means you pick up scrap, etc) on publicly funded projects I'm involved with are mandated to get $50+/hour wages PLUS substantial benefits.

Of course, you gotta know someone to get the job.

Imagine making $400+/day plus benefits, with no school debt, no overnight stress about the big day tomorrow and upcoming deadlines, all you gotta do is show up.

Now remember we are paying for this out of our own, lesser, harder-fought wages.
NYC remains the tumor hanging off the end of this country. Fuck.
These project are funded by the state, not feds.
it's a self-contained rotten pustule, oozing off the fucking seaboard.

Still can't believe the Feds sent them "relief aid" for a fucking flood. And a 60 minutes episode because we're supposed to grieve every injury to that festering boil of a city. Hate is not a strong enough word.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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