GrumpyCatFace wrote:Serious question. Name your preferred politicians that would have made this happen differently.Speaker to Animals wrote:Oh, then you won't mind if we disenfranchise you, then..
The question comes from the bogus premise that the politicians we see today exist independent of the electorate.
If, for example, we went by the original rules in which only white men with property could vote, do you honestly believe any of the retards you see out there today would be politicians or, if they did become politicians, do you really believe they would be doing the same things and enacting the same kinds of policies? Probably not.
Let's look at the idea I tabled before, in which the federal government is quite limited and constrained to only foreign policy and defense for the most part, but in order to serve in it or vote in its elections you have to be a veteran. Right away, you know all the politicians were people willing to set aside four years of their lives. That changes the playing field dramatically. We already know that women are not by and large going to enlist, especially if we dropped all the affirmative action rules, quotas, and double standards from the armed forces. Without gibs and special treatment, princess is going to process right the fuck out probably in week 3 of basic training. So right there you are looking at mostly male, with predominant ethnicities being white, black, and Hispanic. Go look at electoral maps isolated for just males. Then look at the maps isolated for black and Hispanic. The black and Hispanic males would drift the electorate a bit to what we now think of as the left, but not crazy out there shit like we see today. Likewise, look at most white male veterans. These days, most of those guys seem to fall into three camps: neocon, libertarian, and now the alt-right to a smaller extent. The right would most likely lean more towards libertarianism and a bit on social conservatism. Alt-Right would definitely be a thing inside elected government itself, unlike now, but not really that big.
Politicians themselves are products that are brought to a political market as a result of supply and demand. When you fuck around with the electorate, you alter the supply and demand forces for various things. The crazier, more degenerate people you allow into the electorate, the crazier and more degenerate politicians you are going to see. It makes no sense to look at the politicians we see now and ask which ones would be in power had the electorate not been drastically altered.
Bring in a shit ton of illiterate immigrants who depend upon social welfare to survive, and who have a huge extended family they want to bring here even though it fucks everything up for the rest of us, and you get jackasses like Luis Gutierrez who is an elected politician that openly states he serves the Latino people only, belongs to an ethno-nationalist organization dedicated to replacing white people in America, and constantly dumps anti-white garbage into the media in order to keep his base voting for him. Guys like that don't just exist in a vacuum. The electorate creates them.
