North Korea News

[Smitty-48]

Is your contention that we can indefinitely maintain this Mexican stand-off? That just doesn't seem realistic. If it is going to come to either war or peace eventually, might as well see if a little chat won't do some good.

You think you're going to end the North Korean nuclear standoff by giving them some face time?

I don't think you're actually that fuckin' naive, you're just prattling on the standard issue bourgeois lefty pansy waist tribal political mantra, which, again; fetch the garrotes.

Anybody in America who, for even a second, deludes themselves into thinking that there is any possibility whatsoever, that the North Koreans are going to give up their nuclear weapons program after forty years of struggle to achieve it, would be the stupidest people in the stupidest country on earth, but even for Americans, that would be too stupid, so you don't actually think that, you're just doing your little pansy waist dance on the stage, pro forma.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

I'm not saying it isn't a long shot. But if we are just gambling with 'face,' the long shot seems like a good bet.

There's nothing to negotiate, the North Korean's are not changing their position, their terms are unacceptable, so the gamble is not worth it, because there's nothing to negotiate, you fatuous fuckin moron, all you would be doing is sending the message to Pyongyang that nuclear blackmail gets them what they want.

But of course, being a soft bourgeois leftist, you're always up for appeasement and negotiation for negotiations sake, which, thankfully come to think of it, is why you leftists are always crushed in the end, so there is that side benefit I suppose.

Big-dogging appears to be the only play you comprehend, which is why it is good you went in to soldiering and not diplomacy.

Always a pleasure to be threatened with strangulation for my leftism by you, though.

[Smitty-48]

Big-dogging appears to be the only play you comprehend, which is why it is good you went in to soldiering and not diplomacy.

Always a pleasure to be threatened with strangulation for my leftism by you, though.

No, quite the opposite, you're the one who has no understanding of diplomacy, because you think negotiation for its own sake amounts to that, when in fact, that is not diplomacy but rather political posturing, which is what you do, when you prance about with your lefty bourgeois pansy waist appeasement monkey routine.

Diplomacy happens when there are terms actually up for negotiation, but since there is not in this case, North Korea is not changing its strategic position and neither is America, it's just a publicity stunt, which would be exponentially to the advantage of the North Koreans totally at America's expense, which would be folly, but I wouldn't put it past you Americans, because you are a simple people, rubes that is, easily taken in by these sorts of stunts, who knew?

As for strangulation? Merely a fanciful notion, I wouldn't waste my time hunting you down, but if some were to mass garrote you and your ilk, the world would be better for it. The bourgeoisie who say "diplomacy" when what they mean is talking for the sake of talking to no resolution, simply for the purposes of virtue signalling that they are everyone's ostensible moral superiors; the yardarm for those twats, indeed, God willing.

The only thing that would be going on here, is that the North Koreans will have engaged in nuclear blackmail, and for the purposes of a cheap political stunt, an American President will have capitulated to it, which will simply incite more of the same, that's not diplomacy, that's called being taken for a ride by the tin pots in Pyongyang, suckahs.

I talk you into the car at gunpoint, once in the car I steal your wallet, then I shove you out of the moving car; "diplomacy!"

[Speaker to Animals]

I think we still have to talk to them, even if it gets us nowhere, since refusing to talk gives them the high ground to claim it is us who are the war mongers.

It probably is pointless, but I think there is a chance something bigger is going on behind the scenes between Washington and the PRC. The steel tariffs might be one aspect of it. This could be another. It probably will come to nothing, but I suspect what's actually happening behind the scenes is our relationship with China being renogotiated.

Norks asking for a talk kind of seems like a response to the tariffs. It forces us to play this game with them to some end. A kind of retaliation for the fact that the Chinese now have millions of tons of steel parked in Mexico and Canada they cannot easily dump on American markets (which is hilarious, btw).

[Smitty-48]

Not actually going to happen tho. This is just Trump talking out of his ass again, he's already backpedaling away from it, caveats abound, "will not meet with them unless clear and verifiable steps towards de-nuclearization", in other words feggit about it.


Obvious bullshit is obvious, again, it's just a ploy to try to change the channel on the Mueller investigation.

[DrYouth]

9D chess... genius!

[DBTrek]

I’m down for taking out the regime or telling them to fuck themselves.

Everyone else is like “If we just talk to them and they promise to stop nuke testing ...”

Because sixty five years of that charade has worked out great for us, but THIS year it’s finally going to bear fruit.

It’s like living on a planet of goldfish where the 3-second memory reigns supreme.

[BjornP]

"Completely Rational"


http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/a ... 2003293540

That is indeed rational if you're main ability to hold onto power rests on denying your citizens the ability to compare their own quality of life, liberties, etc. to those of neighbouring countries. It would be even more rational to simply shoot the dissidents. The regime spends money and ressources on keeping prison inmates alive, after all.

It also creates a world view that prevents one from acting rationally with respect to those outside the system.

I don't follow what you're saying. What do you mean by "act rationally in respect to those outside the system"? By outside the system, are you talking internally in NK (the regime apparatus vs the people) or the relationship between NK regime and other countries?

[DrYouth]

I’m down for taking out the regime or telling them to fuck themselves.

Everyone else is like “If we just talk to them and they promise to stop nuke testing ...”

Because sixty five years of that charade has worked out great for us, but THIS year it’s finally going to bear fruit.

It’s like living on a planet of goldfish where the 3-second memory reigns supreme.

So what do ya say Smitty...

Are you hopping on DB's regime change bandwagon?

[Smitty-48]

The whole concept of "de-nuclearization" is a bunch of lefty nonsense prattle anyways, once the genie is out of the bottle there's no putting it back. As if the North Koreans just spent forty years building this deterrent just so they could give it away in return for some magic beans, I mean, get real.