Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by JohnDonne » Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:57 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:54 pm
My heart is hardened like a crab shell. Only after being boiled in the waters of love and humanity will it be able to treat crabs as not only our equals, but our betters. We need a crab civil rights movement, led by Shell-son Mandela.
I can appreciate your humor.

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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:58 pm

Because I am feeling generous today..


In 2012:

It turns out the left-most state is also America's most-hated, according to a recent survey by Public Policy Polling. And California's left-leaning politics seem to have a lot to do with it.

The Golden State is the most-disliked in the union, and Hawaii is the most-liked. In fact, ours was one of only five states that received majority-negative views by our fellow Americans, according to PPP:
https://www.laweekly.com/news/californi ... ng-2398458




https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article167274202.html

California ranks No. 1 in the nation with 79 active hate groups, six of which operate in Sacramento area, according to a new report released by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups and extremists in the U.S.

The Southern Poverty Law Center report includes a detailed map of the 917 hate groups actively operating across the United States. Florida ranks second among states, with 63 active hate groups.

As we all know, that group does not count the far more rampant anti-white hate groups that have infested the state. Consider how fucked up it really must be.



Oh, and stop being such a lazy, do-nothing poster who cannot be bothered to look up a simple fact on his own. No wonder you are so fat.

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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:02 pm

JohnDonne wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:39 pm
heydaralon wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:07 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:03 pm
I said it was a metaphor. I did not mean actual crabs getting cooked in a bucket. Just Californians. I am not a monster.
I get that you are joking around, but making light of the crimes against humanity that take place every day at Captain D's is not really a source of amusement for me. I had a pet fiddler crab as a kid, and those creatures are very dear to me. Quite smart too. I can't imagine how I would sleep at night if I knew that my own relatives were conducting their own Final Solution. This is all too much for me right now... Why can't Donne just admit to the world that he walked away like a coward when he should have taken a stand?
You're not that far off. Hitler youth were indoctrinated to blame the Jews, humans growing up have been indoctrinated to abuse and hate animals, and laugh at their suffering. Children don't do any of these things until it is shown to them that they should, on the contrary young children almost invariably love animals and consider them friends. It would be unfair to expect immediate change from people indoctrinated in such a society. The hardened heart is most affected by acute moments of suffering and subtle unrelenting truth, in this way the hardness is by degrees broken down and change finally occurs, it is the same with me and you and with everything.
So animals that eat other animals are Nazis?

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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by heydaralon » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:06 pm

they were just indoctrinated by their animal parents at a young age.
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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:10 pm

Our hominid ancestors were Nazis too?? Nazi australipithicus?

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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by heydaralon » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:13 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:10 pm
Our hominid ancestors were Nazis too?? Nazi australipithicus?

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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:14 pm

Wasn't Hitler a vegan, though?

We may be getting gaslighted by the real Nazis.

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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by heydaralon » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:16 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:14 pm
Wasn't Hitler a vegan, though?
Yeah but he was indoctrinated by his parents at a young age to demonize and hate plants tho, which are living btw. What is the cutoff? Like, I've read plants will send signals out to other plants when they are under duress. Surely that is some form of very very rudimentary thinking right? What if in 20 years we find out that plants can feel pain when we cut them and eat their offspring?
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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by heydaralon » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:18 pm

If something is living, it should not be killed or eaten by humans. Period. The fact that plants are ok to be enslaved and genocided, but animals are not by Vegans, is a form of neural system bigotry.
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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by JohnDonne » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:26 pm

Not sure why early humans or animals would need to indoctrinate a hatred of other species. Animals eat meat because if they didn't they would die, just like earlier humans. That's their justification, more or less. Then again even primitive humans created pretexts for killing animals, tying up the act of killing with a divine sacrifice, or pretending that the animal itself gave its flesh to the hunter. Clearly an indication of some sense of guilt.

Modern humans however have little in the way of survival justification when it comes to killing animals, therefore actively hating animals, denying that they have "souls" or that their feelings matter makes it easier to partake in their flesh. It's simple psychology, really. Denying the personhood of the being that you're harming makes it easier to harm it.