THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:41 pm

StCapps wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:38 pm
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No you wouldn't have. None of the Democrat candidates would have given you more on immigration than Trump did, you just thought he was going to deliver more than he has, despite being told repeatedly that this was wishful thinking, and now you are disappointed and engaging in the grass is always greener on the other side fallacy.

Seriously dude, take your emotions out of this and examine it logically, Trump is doing more for you than any D ever would.
Leave my emotions out of this. Trump's immigration policy is fucked. Barrack Obama was better. Republicans are even more pro open borders than democrats.
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Nice appeal to emotions buckorino. Republicans like depressed wages and lower taxes. Democrats favor higher taxes and at least traditionally, increased wages. The numbers bear this out. Obama sent more people back than Trump. Trump has increased H1B's and illegal immigration. He plans on doing nothing about the latter I assure you.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:04 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:41 pm
StCapps wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:38 pm
TheReal_ND wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:34 pm

Leave my emotions out of this. Trump's immigration policy is fucked. Barrack Obama was better. Republicans are even more pro open borders than democrats.
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Nice appeal to emotions buckorino. Republicans like depressed wages and lower taxes. Democrats favor higher taxes and at least traditionally, increased wages. The numbers bear this out. Obama sent more people back than Trump. Trump has increased H1B's and illegal immigration. He plans on doing nothing about the latter I assure you.
Why have wages increased under Trump then and not under your boy Obama then? Lower taxes do not equal depressed wages.

Democrats plan on doing even less than Trump about illegal immigration, the grass isn't always greener dude. Be real.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:09 pm

StCapps wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:04 pm
TheReal_ND wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:41 pm
StCapps wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:38 pm
:roll:
Nice appeal to emotions buckorino. Republicans like depressed wages and lower taxes. Democrats favor higher taxes and at least traditionally, increased wages. The numbers bear this out. Obama sent more people back than Trump. Trump has increased H1B's and illegal immigration. He plans on doing nothing about the latter I assure you.
Why have wages increased under Trump then and not under your boy Obama then? Lower taxes do not equal depressed wages.

Democrats plan on doing even less than Trump about illegal immigration, the grass isn't always greener dude. Be real.
The grass is a lie. Trump promises with one hand and smears shit in your face with the other. I don't believe wages have increased under Trump because I've seen too many of these government issued graphs broken down for the lie they are. They are propaganda. Besides that adjust for inflation blah blah. Trump is a lie the government is a lie. Who knew? I wouldn't vote for him again but if you are the kind of chump that is willing to swallow his pride and vote for the lesser of the two lies, knock yourself out

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:18 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:09 pm
StCapps wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:04 pm
TheReal_ND wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:41 pm

Nice appeal to emotions buckorino. Republicans like depressed wages and lower taxes. Democrats favor higher taxes and at least traditionally, increased wages. The numbers bear this out. Obama sent more people back than Trump. Trump has increased H1B's and illegal immigration. He plans on doing nothing about the latter I assure you.
Why have wages increased under Trump then and not under your boy Obama then? Lower taxes do not equal depressed wages.

Democrats plan on doing even less than Trump about illegal immigration, the grass isn't always greener dude. Be real.
The grass is a lie. Trump promises with one hand and smears shit in your face with the other. I don't believe wages have increased under Trump because I've seen too many of these government issued graphs broken down for the lie they are. They are propaganda. Besides that adjust for inflation blah blah. Trump is a lie the government is a lie. Who knew? I wouldn't vote for him again but if you are the kind of chump that is willing to swallow his pride and vote for the lesser of the two lies, knock yourself out
Democrats are the one's who want foreigners voting in American elections. Their base is reliant on open borders in a way that the Republican base is not, Democrats will not give you the policies you seek. Just because you don't like the job Trump is doing doesn't mean the Democrats would be doing a better job on your pet issue, your "can't get any worse therefore any change will be better" theory is obviously nonsense.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:23 pm

StCapps wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:18 pm
TheReal_ND wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:09 pm
StCapps wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:04 pm
Why have wages increased under Trump then and not under your boy Obama then? Lower taxes do not equal depressed wages.

Democrats plan on doing even less than Trump about illegal immigration, the grass isn't always greener dude. Be real.
The grass is a lie. Trump promises with one hand and smears shit in your face with the other. I don't believe wages have increased under Trump because I've seen too many of these government issued graphs broken down for the lie they are. They are propaganda. Besides that adjust for inflation blah blah. Trump is a lie the government is a lie. Who knew? I wouldn't vote for him again but if you are the kind of chump that is willing to swallow his pride and vote for the lesser of the two lies, knock yourself out
Democrats are the one's who want foreigners voting in American elections. Their base is reliant on open borders in a way that the Republican base is not, Democrats will not give you the policies you seek. Just because you don't like the job Trump is doing doesn't mean the Democrats would be doing a better job on your pet issue, your "can't get any worse therefore any change will be better" theory is obviously nonsense.
Democrats say that kind of stuff but judging by the way things are done inside the beltway, whatever the mysterious "they" have planned is what's going to happen. You can vote Republican if you want but it won't change anything even when they have the house and the Senate and the court and the oval office.

Not that it matters anyway, Republicans are quickly outnumbered. Vote for drumpf till your heart's content, it doesn't change anything. A Democrat won't change anything either. It's the same coming and going, demographics are destiny and this cake has been baked.

But by all means don't let me rain on your victory parade with a president that "really knows how to let them have it on twitter" :go-team:

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:27 pm

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Republicans just voted for more H1B's.

Republicans are pro immigration

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Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:31 pm

Lobbyist Says U.S. Critics Are ‘Racist’ for Opposing Stealth Transfer of Millennials’ Jobs to Indian Migrants
Lobbyists working for thousands of Indian contract workers are promising to overwhelm GOP Sen. Rand Paul’s opposition to a bill which puts many Indian temporary workers on a fast-track to permanent green cards.

"We have lots and lots of doctors in Kentucky, both in Louisvilleand in Lexington, and in other cities around Kentucky, who can all express how important this bill is to them, and how they literally can’t afford to be doctors anymore,” said Leon Fresco, a former congressional staffer who is quarterbacking the contract workers’ campaign for green cards.

"All of our opponents can be lumped into one of two categories, very simple. Either you are an ethno-racist … Or you are what I would call a for-profit racist, meaning, ‘I have figured out a wayto make money from the racist system, and if this racist system goes away, I’m not going to make money anymore.’

Both of those are disgusting, OK? Whether you are a racist or a for-profit racist, you’re still a racist, and anyone who is taking money fromethno-racists or from for-profit racistsor benefiting from ethno-racism or from for-profit racism, is going to be called out by us in the next few weeksand no-one — whether it is Sen. Paul currentlyor any other Senator who wants to object to this [bill] — is going to be able to survive the scrutiny that we are going to bring."

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:35 pm

If Demographics are destiny how come blacks used to vote Republican and how come George Bush got 44% of the hispanic vote?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:38 pm

StCapps wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:35 pm
If Demographics are destiny how come blacks used to vote Republican and how come Bush got 44% of the hispanic vote?
Don't care and if this refutes any point I made you will have to tell me how.

Fresco spoke via phone on June 30 to some of the contract workers in the group, named Immigration Voice. Fresco disparaged critics of the bill which offers U.S. green cards to roughly 1 million Indian graduates over the next decade, providing they take U.S. jobs sought by U.S. graduates:
On June 27, Fresco’s plans were hit when Sen. Paul put a hold on the surprise Senate “Unanimous Consent” request made by Utah GOP Sen. Mike Lee, the chief advocate for the outsourcing plan.

Paul’s sudden opposition blocked Lee’s bill – titled S.386 — which is getting almost zero attention from the college-grad journalists in established media outlets.

Fresco’s strategy is to pass Lee’s legislation by stealthy “Unanimous Consent” through the Senate. The quiet process ensures that only Lee needs to support the bill publicly. Once through the Senate without a recorded vote, advocates are confident that House judiciary chairwoman Rep. Zoe Lofgren will rush an identical bill — H.R. 1044 — through the House, likely without a recorded vote, so delivering the final green-card giveaway to President Donald Trump’s desk.

Lofgren can push her copy of the bill through the House because support from many GOP legislators and allows her to trigger a fast-track House approval process.
Fresco’s bill is titled “Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants,” and it would abolish the “country caps” which diversify the annual award of 140,000 green cards to the various foreign nationals of American companies.

The prime beneficiaries of the “country cap” bill are the many Indian contract-workers who arrived on temporary H-1B visas, and who then avoided going home by getting their employers to nominate them for green cards. At least 200,000 Indians have already obtained green cards via the employer process during the last decade.

But the huge number of Indian who volunteered to take Americans’ jobs via the H-1B visas are jammed by the “country cap” on green cards for Indians. Perhaps 300,000 resident Indian contract-workers and 300,000 family members are waiting in several backlogged lines for roughly 23,000 green cards issued to Indians each year.

If Lee’s bill become law, the Indian share of the employer green-cards could quickly quadruple to at least 100,000 cards a year, or 1 million per decade.

That offer of at least 75,000 extra green cards per year would create a huge incentive for more young Indian graduates to take U.S. jobs at very low wages.

The extra Indians would be able to get jobs via the uncapped H-1B visas and the uncapped Optional Practical Training program. The resulting flood of workers would allow many more Indian graduates to take many prestigious college-graduate jobs sought by younger American graduates, to force down the Americans’ salaries, and to create yet more economic problems for the disadvantaged Millennial generation.

This huge international movement of college-graduate labor is being encouraged by U.S. investors as well as by the Indian government’s economic development strategy.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:15 pm

Trump was never against legal immigration, only illegal immigration. You were told so repeatedly, and refused to listen. Now you're all butthurt like Trump betrayed you, when it was obvious he didn't share your position in the first place and you just ignored the signs to engage in wishful thinking.
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