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by Zlaxer » Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:48 pm
DBTrek wrote:
So I’ll simply ask - what is your answer to NK stockpiling nuclear weapons...
Blockade, but the PRC needs to be onboard.....PRC presently loves Rocket man bc he's a problem for us.....
The question you should be asking is how does one defeat the PRC?
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by DBTrek » Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:50 pm
DrYouth wrote:
What you were hoping for a shrink in middle of nowhere Canada to present you with a step by step multinational approach to containing a rogue regime?
You don’t have to. You can simply acknowledge that the accumulated international leadership and world diplomats of the last sixty five years haven’t formulated an answer, so there’s no reason to believe they’ll come up with one between now and NKs imminent creation of a world-annihilating stockpile of nukes.
This year they’ve finally got the pieces in place to deliver nukes to our continent. How much more stockpile time do you want to give them?
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by clubgop » Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:57 pm
Montegriffo wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:Montegriffo wrote:What constitutes ''solved'?
Pretty sure NK isn't giving up it's insurance policy against regime change. While they've still got nukes nothing is solved.
Best case scenario is NK gets recognised as a legitimate nation by the US in return for a halt to weapons testing.
Worst case they start calling each other names again and the talks end very quickly.
I have no doubt they'll halt testing, for legitimacy. Not much of a trade, imo. They've already achieved what they needed to.
Yup. Not hard to see Trump being bamboozled by Kim. I know which one I'd most like to face at a poker table.
Yeah and what of Clinton where they got the nukes in the first place? Or Obama getting rolled by Iran as a cornerstone of the man's legacy. You all want to bitch about what Trump
might do, but no mention from you undercover hack bitches about what dem presidents
did.
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by Zlaxer » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:00 pm
DBTrek wrote:DrYouth wrote:
What you were hoping for a shrink in middle of nowhere Canada to present you with a step by step multinational approach to containing a rogue regime?
You don’t have to. You can simply acknowledge that the accumulated international leadership and world diplomats of the last sixty five years haven’t formulated an answer, so there’s no reason to believe they’ll come up with one between now and NKs imminent creation of a world-annihilating stockpile of nukes.
This year they’ve finally got the pieces in place to deliver nukes to our continent. How much more stockpile time do you want to give them?
And what happens if they use one? We loose a city, they loose a nation. They're not going to use them unless they're suicidal....which they do not appear to be....
Nothing will happen to DPRK until the PRC wants something to happen....Unless our government finally tells the PRC to fuck off....but do you see corporate America allowing that to happen?
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by Montegriffo » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:02 pm
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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by DBTrek » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:03 pm
For 65 years it’s even “let diplomacy work”.
Now that diplomacy failed it’s “we can’t do anything because they might nuke a city, plus we’re pretty sure they won’t do anything crazy”
Bravo.
Regular long-term thinkers and strategists, this crowd.
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by Zlaxer » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:05 pm
DBTrek wrote:For 65 years it’s even “let diplomacy work”.
Now that diplomacy failed it’s “we can’t do anything because they might nuke a city, plus we’re pretty sure they won’t do anything crazy”
Bravo.
Regular long-term thinkers and strategists, this crowd.
Its not "let diplomacy work"....its that doing nothing right now is less risky than doing something....Get the PRC on-board with a blockade and starve them....that's the easiest way to collapse the DPRK....But the PRC hasn't done so....the real enemy here is the PRC...the DPRK is just a fuckin patsy....
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by Speaker to Animals » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:09 pm
North Korea is propped up by the Russians, though. China is responsible for this mess because they snuck in there and attacked us when we were about to end that regime. So it should be them who have to do most of the work to fix it.
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by nmoore63 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:19 pm
There is serious reasons to be concerned whether or not North Korea is a rational actor.
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by Zlaxer » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:21 pm
nmoore63 wrote:There is serious reasons to be concerned whether or not North Korea is a rational actor.
I think their actions are completely rational if one assumes that the DPRK only wants to maintain it's hold on power....