Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

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Re: Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

Post by MilSpecs » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:37 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:21 pm
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heydaralon wrote:
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Definitely don't handle it better lol. Women get angry about stuff and they often do not even know why they are angry. Sometimes, they will even admit it openly. Every man with a wife, mother, or a sister can attest to this. If you are dating a woman, she will say its all good after a fight and then let their anger fester until it starts another one. Rinse and repeat. And that's just open conflict. From my experience, women tend to gossip more and spread fucked up rumors, especially in the workplace. I have confronted women at my workplace about talking shit about me to my boss, and they just get flustered and deny it point blank even if I overheard her saying it. Women are not physically as strong as men, so from an evolutionary standpoint it would make sense for them to not want to initiate a conflict directly, as they would in all likelihood lose. The underhanded sort of dishonorable route is their MO.
Again, this is just a different style and you're not understanding how the conflict is processed and resolved. First, I totally don't get the part about someone not knowing why she's angry. I've never had that experience, nor do any women I'm close to. The fight thing: the conflict wasn't resolved or she's just someone who doesn't let things go. Women grouping together to resolve a conflict is how we do it. Before I go to war, I'm going to make sure I have allies. "Underhanded and dishonorable" is like women saying men are "bullies and creeps." Its just a different way of resolving conflict.
If I have a problem with you, and I say it to your face, that is honorable. If I go behind your back and "ally" with other people of low character by talking shit and so forth without giving you a chance to address it or defend yourself, that is dishonorable. There is no culture or society on Earth that I know of that considers backstabbing and behind your back gossiping as a laudable trait.

Milspecs logic: "That's just how jihadis fight bro. American soldiers will get in uniform, and attack military targets, whereas the Jihadis will intentionally bomb an Ariana Grande Concert and attack civilians. You don't understand. Its not that one of those things is less honorable, they are just different is all."
You probably were given a chance to address it and didn't recognize it.

You're again conflating how men would deal with a conflict and how women might. Women, given the chance, wouldn't bomb anybody. Violence is usually not honorable to women at all - it's bullying.

It's funny, you have me thinking about my dad. He used to say that women's greater facility with words during heightened emotions made him crazy during arguments. Husband is the same way. He yells and I see yelling as bullying. We are indeed very different in how we see a 'fair fight.'
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Re: Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

Post by heydaralon » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:38 pm

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More women need to take legislative positions and other places of power. If women are so good at going to war with a coalition at their side, why aren't there more women in positions of political power? If they are better at it than men it follows that there should be.

Why are women choosing not to?
lool. you are such a cuck dude. If you leave your turn signal on while driving the way you leave your virtue signal on while posting, I would have thought you were Asian...
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Post by heydaralon » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:00 pm

MilSpecs wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:37 pm
heydaralon wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:21 pm
MilSpecs wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:06 pm


Again, this is just a different style and you're not understanding how the conflict is processed and resolved. First, I totally don't get the part about someone not knowing why she's angry. I've never had that experience, nor do any women I'm close to. The fight thing: the conflict wasn't resolved or she's just someone who doesn't let things go. Women grouping together to resolve a conflict is how we do it. Before I go to war, I'm going to make sure I have allies. "Underhanded and dishonorable" is like women saying men are "bullies and creeps." Its just a different way of resolving conflict.
If I have a problem with you, and I say it to your face, that is honorable. If I go behind your back and "ally" with other people of low character by talking shit and so forth without giving you a chance to address it or defend yourself, that is dishonorable. There is no culture or society on Earth that I know of that considers backstabbing and behind your back gossiping as a laudable trait.

Milspecs logic: "That's just how jihadis fight bro. American soldiers will get in uniform, and attack military targets, whereas the Jihadis will intentionally bomb an Ariana Grande Concert and attack civilians. You don't understand. Its not that one of those things is less honorable, they are just different is all."
You probably were given a chance to address it and didn't recognize it.

You're again conflating how men would deal with a conflict and how women might. Women, given the chance, wouldn't bomb anybody. Violence is usually not honorable to women at all - it's bullying.

It's funny, you have me thinking about my dad. He used to say that women's greater facility with words during heightened emotions made him crazy during arguments. Husband is the same way. He yells and I see yelling as bullying. We are indeed very different in how we see a 'fair fight.'
I gave him a chance to read my mind and decipher my cryptic non statements, he should have used his psychic abilities and known what was up and addressed the problem. :lol:

Putting aside the obvious nonsense that women are above violence that you stated, my warfare analogy was to verbal conflict. Not a fistfight, but a confrontation. It is more honorable to address the problem face to face and talk, then it is to spread rumors and gossip, no? In general, if I have a problem with somebody, I will bring that shit to them and initiate a nonphysical confrontation. I will ask them why they did or said what they did. This is tackling the problem head on. When this has happened with other men, from my experience, some headway is generally made. When I have attempted to resolve conflict in this manner with women, they will often just act evasively and deny there is a problem. They were fine with talking shit, but they do not want to actually honestly communicate with the person they were talking shit about. This does not solve anything, and it is not an effective conflict resolution.

Since talking shit and undermining someone and enlisting the help of others to do so involves more than one person, it isn't a 'fair fight.' Yelling is not a good thing either, but trying to negate the content of the speech by criticizing the tone of the speech is a pretty childish and dishonest tactic too. And its a pretty old tactic. I think its on page 3 of the Women's handbook. Usually the woman's complaining over the yelling is directly proportional to how reasonable it is for the man to be mad. I say all this from personal experience.
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Re: Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

Post by MilSpecs » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:10 pm

You know, it could just be the type of person you go out with. I know some pretty verbally aggressive women and some pretty passive aggressive men. I'm not attracted to passive aggressive men, and so I wind up with the yellers. You might just wind up with the evasive types.

Also, sometimes a woman just isn't ready to discuss something so she'll say there's nothing wrong.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:12 pm

:lol:

It's just your fault women are high conflict.

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Post by jediuser598 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:32 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:38 pm
jediuser598 wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:16 pm
More women need to take legislative positions and other places of power. If women are so good at going to war with a coalition at their side, why aren't there more women in positions of political power? If they are better at it than men it follows that there should be.

Why are women choosing not to?
lool. you are such a cuck dude. If you leave your turn signal on while driving the way you leave your virtue signal on while posting, I would have thought you were Asian...
Any virtue I'd have you'd call virtue signalling, unless it's believing whatever Trump says and the new virtue of paying off porn stars to be quiet about the adultery you committed.

Then again, I'm not sure you Trumpettes know what virtue is, much less what virtue signalling is.
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Re: Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

Post by jediuser598 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:34 pm

MilSpecs wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:30 pm
jediuser598 wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:16 pm
More women need to take legislative positions and other places of power. If women are so good at going to war with a coalition at their side, why aren't there more women in positions of political power? If they are better at it than men it follows that there should be.

Why are women choosing not to?
There are more all the time, but I can only tell you why I didn't go any further. My family objected.
I would say most politicians have families, in fact it is seen as a strength, part of their platform often times. You really are your own best advocate, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
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Re: Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

Post by Ph64 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:32 pm

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Also, sometimes a woman just isn't ready to discuss something so she'll say there's nothing wrong.
And men know when a woman says there's "nothing wrong" she's lying, because they know *something* is wrong and they want to find out what - to "fix it" if they can. Which leads to frustration (and possibly raised voice trying to get you discuss what is wrong, since there's always something wrong when it comes to women ;)).

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Post by MilSpecs » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:02 am

Ph64 wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:32 pm
MilSpecs wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:10 pm
Also, sometimes a woman just isn't ready to discuss something so she'll say there's nothing wrong.
And men know when a woman says there's "nothing wrong" she's lying, because they know *something* is wrong and they want to find out what - to "fix it" if they can. Which leads to frustration (and possibly raised voice trying to get you discuss what is wrong, since there's always something wrong when it comes to women ;)).
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Sometimes I’ll just be sitting on the couch thinking about whether I should run to the supermarket and husband will ask me what’s wrong. He looks relieved when I say I’m just thinking about shopping. God forbid I say something is actually bothering me and I want to vent, because a suggestion is forthcoming and that’s it, problem solved - although it's not solved until I feel better about it, which is a source of great frustration for him.

The great mystery of the sexes summed up on a Sunday afternoon: a woman sitting on a couch doing nothing is presumed to be in distress and a man screaming at a television is a sign that all is right with the world.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:08 am

Pro-tip: just asking a woman what is wrong will make *something* wrong. They won't necessarily pass up an opportunity to complain about something.