THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Ex-California » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:26 pm

Tom Brokaw was just like "what the hell are they even protesting? Are there signs or are they throwing a tantrum that Trump was elected" (paraphrased)
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:26 pm

Had a group of about 50 protestors march through downtown Cleveland at noon. Street fights, and 2 arrests as they went by my building.

I'm sure it's everywhere.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:28 pm

apeman wrote:No one knows what Trump is gonna do, just stop it, he is the most unpredictable public figure I can think of.
I don't find him to be particularly unfathomable, the America First economic doctrine may not be a panacea, but it's not rocket science neither.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Ex-California » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:30 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Had a group of about 50 protestors march through downtown Cleveland at noon. Street fights, and 2 arrests as they went by my building.

I'm sure it's everywhere.
Black girls I grew up with say that Florida is getting tore up too and its not getting coverage because its angry white folks protesting. I tend to believe them
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by The Conservative » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:32 pm

California wrote:
StCapps wrote:Protestors throwing rocks and bottles at cops in DC, trying to fuck with Trump's inauguration parade route. The counter-productivity of Trump haters is truly staggering.
His Populist message mirrors so much what Bernie was saying too. They are just idiots.

A lot of them are probably anarchists who won't be happy about anything.

They have their right to protest, but fuck them anyway
There is a difference between protesting and destroying private property...
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by kybkh » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:35 pm

The question about what Trump will do depends more on what the Republican congressmen are willing to do.

If Trump could cause a Tea Party like wave against the remaining neo-cons and RINOs in 2 years the question of "What will Trump do?" becomes much more relevant.

He wasn't able to bring in a ton of backers this election. Not sure how many congressmen really ran on the Trump Platform, I know some ran against it.
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Post by adwinistrator » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:36 pm

StCapps wrote:Trump is going to lower corporate taxes, remove regulations and lower tariffs. Threatening tariffs on companies moving jobs overseas is a bluff designed to scare them into staying. First Trump feigns use of the stick and then presents a carrot, to make the carrot seem more desirable than it is on it's own, and then he gets more people to bite at a higher percentage of the time as a result. That's his MO, he calls it "The Art Of The Deal". Outrageous opening offers are not hard policy stances, bet that.
Thanks, great answer to my question. I know what you're talking about, in regards to feigning the crazy for the compromise.

So you think that he has the goals he stated in his speech, but will threaten multinational corporations with extreme anti-capitalist measures, all in an attempt to get them to make choices that benefit the American workforce?

While lowering taxes and regulations is standard GOP economic practice, I don't see how that will create jobs, or increase pay.

The "jobs" that go overseas are usually "we don't make that here anymore, it's cheaper to buy that from China", or "We're a multi-national corporation, so we can move our low skill labor to Mexico". It seemed like Trump was saying he would punish companies that do those things, although it may be more likely he will give handouts to those who do the opposite (but that is exploitable by business).

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:37 pm

adwinistrator wrote:
If the hatred of the left is 95% about social and cultural BS, but you think some redistribution of wealth, or economic controls to minimize the wealth gap, are needed for a healthy long term economy, I could agree with a lot of your points.
Whipping up hatred against the Left is simply a counterattack in the face of the Left whipping up hatred against the Right, a very rational means to an end, to defend the commons from a Commune. It's just a question of we on the Right being much better at this game than the Left are, so the Leftists ceaselessly whine about us taking them into the boards and driving them through the glass when we finish our checks; too bad, so sad.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by adwinistrator » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:38 pm

kybkh wrote:The question about what Trump will do depends more on what the Republican congressmen are willing to do.

If Trump could cause a Tea Party like wave against the remaining neo-cons and RINOs in 2 years the question of "What will Trump do?" becomes much more relevant.

He wasn't able to bring in a ton of backers this election. Not sure how many congressmen really ran on the Trump Platform, I know some ran against it.
This is my thinking as well. He's limited by the GOP on a lot of this, so anything he'd like to do that the GOP doesn't like will be difficult.

If Trump then retaliates by fighting them on a different cause, now there's a big struggle over control.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:41 pm

Don't underestimate the violence and depravity of the marxist left to drive even more Americans over to the Trump camp.