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Re: North Korea News

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:49 am

Montegriffo wrote:Starting wars for oil in the middle East to fuel the MIC?
Where's the oil?

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Re: North Korea News

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:56 am

TheReal_ND wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:Starting wars for oil in the middle East to fuel the MIC?
Where's the oil?
In your coworkers' hair products?
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Re: North Korea News

Post by DBTrek » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:59 am

Montegriffo wrote: If they want to make peace with SK for the duration of the Olympics I fail to see how that is a bad thing.
If NK is brokering a peace deal that’s great news.
Last I heard they were shelling civilians on islands and threatening Guam. After over fifty years or hostile armistice I’m surprised no news agencies are reporting on the peace negotiations that NK has brought to the table.

Amazing that South Koreans aren’t as jazzed as you are about it, Monte.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:05 pm

Considering it is the first time in two years that the two sides have had formal talks I call that a good thing. Better than high tensions casting a shadow over the games.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by DBTrek » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:10 pm

Glad your good feelers trump over a half century of evidence and the objections of the population involved.
Stalinists can’t grow without friends and supporters.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:29 pm

You can see the DPRK strategy here in nascent form, nuclear blackmail, then attempt to drive a wedge between the United States and the ROK, by appealing to the South Korean Anti-American left. Nuclear stick and carrot.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:40 pm

From the North Korean point of view, the South Korean left are a bunch of effeminate beta faggots basically, the problem is simply getting the hard line right wingers out of the way, and then Pyongyang can call the shots by proxy, no blitzkrieg with tanks, they just lord their nuclear weapons over them to extract concessions, eventually there is a negotiated settlement resulting in a confederation, which the North Koreans run by default, from the shadows.

The North Koreans get to keep their North Korea, and have their cake too, by having access to the economic engine to the south, free from American interference. Step one, drive a wedge to get the Americans out, step two, leverage the South Korean left to be their proxies.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by DBTrek » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:47 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:From the North Korean point of view, the South Korean left are a bunch of effeminate beta faggots basically, the problem is simply getting the hard line right wingers out of the way, and then Pyongyang can call the shots by proxy, no blitzkrieg with tanks, they just lord their nuclear weapons over them to extract concessions, eventually there is a negotiated settlement resulting in a confederation, which the North Koreans run by default, from the shadows.

The North Koreans get to keep their North Korea, and have their cake too, by having access to the economic engine to the south, free from American interference.
How will they keep the starving citizens in the North?
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Re: North Korea News

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:53 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:From the North Korean point of view, the South Korean left are a bunch of effeminate beta faggots basically, the problem is simply getting the hard line right wingers out of the way, and then Pyongyang can call the shots by proxy, no blitzkrieg with tanks, they just lord their nuclear weapons over them to extract concessions, eventually there is a negotiated settlement resulting in a confederation, which the North Koreans run by default, from the shadows.

The North Koreans get to keep their North Korea, and have their cake too, by having access to the economic engine to the south, free from American interference.
How will they keep the starving citizens in the North?
The confederation, it's not unification, there's still a hard border for the population, only the North Korean elites get access, everybody else remains in the Juche Gulag, and the ROK assists Pyongyang to ensure this.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:57 pm

Again, this already happens in nascent form, the Special Economic Zone, it's basically a slave labour camp run by the North Koreans, making products for corporations in the South, that's the model.

The basic outlines and structures of the North Korean plan are already in place, in nascent form, that's why they are confident that their plan is going to work. It's not pie in the sky, they can see it right in front of them.

The only thing really standing in their way, is America, and that's where things can start to get dicey.
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