The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by Haumana » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:28 am

Kath wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:14 am
doc_loliday wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:05 am
Was anyone appeased by Bolton's appointment?
The MIC? Without perpetual war, what do we need them for?
That's what I was thinking.

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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by C-Mag » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:57 am

Haumana wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:28 am
Kath wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:14 am
doc_loliday wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:05 am
Was anyone appeased by Bolton's appointment?
The MIC? Without perpetual war, what do we need them for?
That's what I was thinking.
OK, I'm not a fan of Bolton as I've said, but let's look at facts if we are going to be slamming National Security Advisors for being involved with new wars. Since 2000

Condi Rice - Afghanistan, Iraq, Yellow Cake, WMDs
Stephen Hadley - Nothing new, stared down the Bear in Georgia
James Jones - Oversaw the withdrawl from Iraq and the expansion in Afghanistan.
Tom Donilon - oversaw destruction of Libya, we came, we saw, he died :lol: Involved in smuggling weapons from Libya to Syria which would create ISIS.
Susan Rice - Oversaw US expanding dramatically troop presence in Africa, and Yemen. Involved in getting US troops in Syria.
HR McMaster - Nothing New. lobbed missiles into Syria. oversaw the bulk of the destruction of ISIS.
John Bolton - Nothing new.
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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by Haumana » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:16 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:57 am
Haumana wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:28 am
Kath wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:14 am


The MIC? Without perpetual war, what do we need them for?
That's what I was thinking.
OK, I'm not a fan of Bolton as I've said, but let's look at facts if we are going to be slamming National Security Advisors for being involved with new wars. Since 2000

Condi Rice - Afghanistan, Iraq, Yellow Cake, WMDs
Stephen Hadley - Nothing new, stared down the Bear in Georgia
James Jones - Oversaw the withdrawl from Iraq and the expansion in Afghanistan.
Tom Donilon - oversaw destruction of Libya, we came, we saw, he died :lol: Involved in smuggling weapons from Libya to Syria which would create ISIS.
Susan Rice - Oversaw US expanding dramatically troop presence in Africa, and Yemen. Involved in getting US troops in Syria.
HR McMaster - Nothing New. lobbed missiles into Syria. oversaw the bulk of the destruction of ISIS.
John Bolton - Nothing new.
I mean that his appointment was an empty gesture by Trump towards the MIC/Neocons. I sure hope that Kelly/Trump keep the tight leash on Bolton to keep the "Nothing new" status quo.

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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by C-Mag » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:25 pm

Haumana wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:16 pm

I mean that his appointment was an empty gesture by Trump towards the MIC/Neocons. I sure hope that Kelly/Trump keep the tight leash on Bolton to keep the "Nothing new" status quo.
It very well could have been an empty gesture. All I know is Bolton got his wings clipped pretty damn fast when his loud mouth almost fucked up the NorK Summit.

Nothing New/Status Quo doesn't do it for me. I want to see a radical withdrawl from about 80% of our global footprint. I don't think Trump can do it politically until his second term though.

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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by Kath » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:32 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:25 pm
I want to see a radical withdrawl from about 80% of our global footprint. I don't think Trump can do it politically until his second term though.
+1 - this would be one thing that would be really hard to put back. I'm doubtful the MIC will let him, though. I wish Eisenhower were here. He warned us.
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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:34 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:25 pm
Haumana wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:16 pm

I mean that his appointment was an empty gesture by Trump towards the MIC/Neocons. I sure hope that Kelly/Trump keep the tight leash on Bolton to keep the "Nothing new" status quo.
It very well could have been an empty gesture. All I know is Bolton got his wings clipped pretty damn fast when his loud mouth almost fucked up the NorK Summit.

Nothing New/Status Quo doesn't do it for me. I want to see a radical withdrawl from about 80% of our global footprint. I don't think Trump can do it politically until his second term though.

I'm watching Donald !
:lol: Just one more election, and it'll happen!

I remember the exact same thing being said about Obama.
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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:28 pm

Kath wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:40 am
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:24 am
The Age of Bolton was pretty damn short.

God Emperor Trump has banned Bolton from North Korea negotiations.
http://theweek.com/speedreads/777065/tr ... orea-talks
Well, that's good news. Maybe he's hiring these losers just to piss people off, knowing full well he's getting rid of them ASAP. Bannon, anyone?
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That's what I'm thinking. Might even be the goal going into it.

Think of the support he'd get from shit canning Bolton.
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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by C-Mag » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:34 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:34 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:25 pm
Haumana wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:16 pm

I mean that his appointment was an empty gesture by Trump towards the MIC/Neocons. I sure hope that Kelly/Trump keep the tight leash on Bolton to keep the "Nothing new" status quo.
It very well could have been an empty gesture. All I know is Bolton got his wings clipped pretty damn fast when his loud mouth almost fucked up the NorK Summit.

Nothing New/Status Quo doesn't do it for me. I want to see a radical withdrawl from about 80% of our global footprint. I don't think Trump can do it politically until his second term though.

I'm watching Donald !
:lol: Just one more election, and it'll happen!

I remember the exact same thing being said about Obama.
Maybe, I understand the cynicsm. Trump has been pretty focused on his agenda. Even Dan said he's doing what he said he'd do. Much to the dislike of the Resistance.

Pulling back from all these wars that just cost us money is one of the things he campaigned on.
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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by Kath » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:40 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:34 pm
Even Dan said he's doing what he said he'd do.
I was going to remind you that Dan hasn't put out CS content for several months, but I went to look to be sure. There's a new one - I can't believe it. I thought he was done.
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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:47 pm

Oh he's done.
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