Hyman, Komarov and Kadri are all getting more ice time than Marner, that's dumb dude, that's dumb. Hyman is getting more than Nylander, also dumb. Playing your best players that little is weird and stupid.Smitty-48 wrote:Matthews, Marner and Nylander are getting plenty of icetime, kids not getting enough icetime is fake news.StCapps wrote:Not fake news, they get played less than most forwards of that caliber, don't snow.Smitty-48 wrote:Matthews, Marner and Nylander are getting plenty of icetime, kids not getting enough icetime is fake news.
The Babcock system is a four line team, they're not going anywhere being a top heavy dipsy doodle team, until a better grinder comes available, Komarov is fine on the fourth line and killing penalties.
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No its not, Marner is not reliable, he's way too fancy pancy, he coughs the puck up constantly, and he ain't lighting it up offensively neither, Marner is another work in progress, starting with more time in the gym, and more simplification of his game on both sides of the puck, until then, he hasn't earned more icetime.StCapps wrote:Hyman, Komarov and Kadri are all getting more ice time than Marner, that's dumb dude, that's dumb.Smitty-48 wrote:Matthews, Marner and Nylander are getting plenty of icetime, kids not getting enough icetime is fake news.StCapps wrote:Not fake news, they get played less than most forwards of that caliber, don't snow.
The Babcock system is a four line team, they're not going anywhere being a top heavy dipsy doodle team, until a better grinder comes available, Komarov is fine on the fourth line and killing penalties.
Marner plays like he's still in junior, until he cuts that shit out, he's not ready for prime time.
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He is two points behind Nylander and Nylander should be getting 18 mins a night, he's doing fine offensively. Give Matthews 19:00, give Nylander 18:00, give Marner 17:30, that's not difficult and the team will play better if they make that tweak.Smitty-48 wrote:No its not, Marner is not reliable, he's way too fancy pancy, he coughs the puck up constantly, and he ain't lighting it up offensively neither, Marner is another work in progress, starting with more time in the gym, and more simplification of his game, until then, he hasn't earned more icetime.
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He's not reliable on both sides of the puck, neither of them are, they're still a work in progress, they haven't earned twenty minutes a night, and handing out twenty minutes a night to kids who are not ready to carry the load on both sides of the puck, is not how the process works, big picture, they got a long way to go before they are ready for prime time in the show, they'll get there, but they'll get their by sticking to the program.StCapps wrote:He is two points behind Nylander and Nylander should be getting 18 mins a night, he's doing fine offensively.Smitty-48 wrote:No its not, Marner is not reliable, he's way too fancy pancy, he coughs the puck up constantly, and he ain't lighting it up offensively neither, Marner is another work in progress, starting with more time in the gym, and more simplification of his game, until then, he hasn't earned more icetime.
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I said 19:00, 18:00, 17:30, not 20:00, 20:00, 20:00. That's not that big of an ice time hike from where they sit right now, it's a small tweak. They are ready for that workload, that's only a 0:50 increase for Marner, a 1:21 increase for Nylander, and a 0:34 increase for Matthews, on average per night, hardly "panicking" or "bailing on the process".Smitty-48 wrote:He's not reliable on both sides of the puck, neither of them are, they're still a work in progress, they haven't earned 20 minutes a night, and handing out twenty minutes a night to kids who are not ready to carry the load on both sides of the puck, is not how the process goes, big picture, they got a long way to go before they are ready for prime time in the show.StCapps wrote:He is two points behind Nylander and Nylander should be getting 18 mins a night, he's doing fine offensively.Smitty-48 wrote:No its not, Marner is not reliable, he's way too fancy pancy, he coughs the puck up constantly, and he ain't lighting it up offensively neither, Marner is another work in progress, starting with more time in the gym, and more simplification of his game, until then, he hasn't earned more icetime.
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Matthews is getting 18:26, Nylander 16:39, Marner 15:40, I'd say that's about right for now. There's no reason to rush them, let them earn their spurs.StCapps wrote:I said 19:00, 18:00, 17:30, not 20:00, 20:00, 20:00. That's not that big of an ice time hike from where they sit right now, it's a small tweak. They are ready for that workload.Smitty-48 wrote:He's not reliable on both sides of the puck, neither of them are, they're still a work in progress, they haven't earned 20 minutes a night, and handing out twenty minutes a night to kids who are not ready to carry the load on both sides of the puck, is not how the process goes, big picture, they got a long way to go before they are ready for prime time in the show.StCapps wrote:He is two points behind Nylander and Nylander should be getting 18 mins a night, he's doing fine offensively.
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Giving Marner and Nylander around a minute more, and giving Matthews an extra thirty seconds, on average per night, that is rushing them?Smitty-48 wrote:Matthews is getting 18:26, Nylander 16:39, Marner 15:40, I'd say that's about right for now. There's no reason to rush them, let them earn their spurs.StCapps wrote:I said 19:00, 18:00, 17:30, not 20:00, 20:00, 20:00. That's not that big of an ice time hike from where they sit right now, it's a small tweak. They are ready for that workload.Smitty-48 wrote:
He's not reliable on both sides of the puck, neither of them are, they're still a work in progress, they haven't earned 20 minutes a night, and handing out twenty minutes a night to kids who are not ready to carry the load on both sides of the puck, is not how the process goes, big picture, they got a long way to go before they are ready for prime time in the show.
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What's going on ITT big guy?
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They haven't earned more icetime, they're not complete, not even Matthews, their effort level fluctuates in game and game to game, they're not consistent, they're not reliable in their own end, they are second year players with a lot of talent, but they ain't big dogs in the show yet, and there's no reason to hand them more icetime until are.StCapps wrote:Giving Marner and Nylander around a minute more, and giving Matthews an extra thirty seconds, on average per night, that is rushing them?Smitty-48 wrote:Matthews is getting 18:26, Nylander 16:39, Marner 15:40, I'd say that's about right for now. There's no reason to rush them, let them earn their spurs.StCapps wrote:I said 19:00, 18:00, 17:30, not 20:00, 20:00, 20:00. That's not that big of an ice time hike from where they sit right now, it's a small tweak. They are ready for that workload.
Nathan MacKinnon only gets 19:18, the idea that Matthews needs more icetime is nonsense, when he takes it to the level MacKinnon is playing at, he can another minute, but he's not at that level yet.
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GIve good players more ice time and it gets easier to be consistent, pro tip. A small tweak upward will do them good, don't be silly, the play them less strategy isn't improving consistency, time to switch up. If it doesn't help after a proper sample size, oh well, then dial it back, and wait for another spot to try again.Smitty-48 wrote:They haven't earned more icetime, they're not complete, not even Matthews, their effort level fluctuates in game and game to game, they're not consistent, they're not reliable in their own end, they are second year players with a lot of talent, but they ain't big dogs in the show yet, and there's no reason to hand them more icetime until are.StCapps wrote:Giving Marner and Nylander around a minute more, and giving Matthews an extra thirty seconds, on average per night, that is rushing them?Smitty-48 wrote:
Matthews is getting 18:26, Nylander 16:39, Marner 15:40, I'd say that's about right for now. There's no reason to rush them, let them earn their spurs.
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