The Destroyer of All Western Values

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Re: The Destroyer of All Western Values

Post by heydaralon » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:22 am

Smitty-48 wrote:Iraq is going a hell of a lot better than Afghanistan, America had it backwards, and I said so at the time, in terms of viability, Iraq was the Good War, Afghanistan was the Bad War.
As bad as Afghanistan turned out, we at least had a reason to be there.
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Re: The Destroyer of All Western Values

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:23 am

heydaralon wrote::o

I would be very surprised if Iraq ended up as a stable country any time in the near future, but I can't see the future either.
It's already stabilized for the most part, there's only pockets of resistance to King Dollah there now, and they are being ground down into the dirt, slowly but surely, street by street, block by block, but because you've gone back to the Rumsfeld Doctrine; next to no American casualties in the process, and so; sustainable beyond the near term, and thus; victory in the mid to long, inevitably.
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Re: The Destroyer of All Western Values

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:25 am

heydaralon wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Iraq is going a hell of a lot better than Afghanistan, America had it backwards, and I said so at the time, in terms of viability, Iraq was the Good War, Afghanistan was the Bad War.
As bad as Afghanistan turned out, we at least had a reason to be there.
Better reason to be in Iraq, as it is exponentially more viable than Afghanistan, someday maybe King Dollah will rule Aghanistan again, but in Iraq, much sooner, in fact, he rules Iraq already.

There's no infrastucture in Afghanistan, it's just a pile of dirt, Iraq on the otherhand, urbanized from the get go.

And in Iraq; no India v. Pakistan. Only Iran, but; Iran's interest is also to stabilize, Iranian and American interests now aligning in Iraq.
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Re: The Destroyer of All Western Values

Post by C-Mag » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:35 am

Smitty-48 wrote:It's starting to work by the way, slowly but surely, that American Liquidity is already re-ordering Iraqi society around it; mission accomplished after all.
Our Hegemony is like the Borg.................... you will be Assimilated :twisted:
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Re: The Destroyer of All Western Values

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:36 am

There's no competitor anymore, where they gonna go? Soviet Union? Even Russia is Dollarized now. China? Dollarized too.

King Dollah is winning the war, slowly but surely, street by street, block by block, sustainment is merely a function of minimizing American casualties; Rumsfeld Doctrine FTW.
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Re: The Destroyer of All Western Values

Post by StCapps » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:41 am

C-Mag wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:It's starting to work by the way, slowly but surely, that American Liquidity is already re-ordering Iraqi society around it; mission accomplished after all.
Our Hegemony is like the Borg.................... you will be Assimilated :twisted:
In some ways you're even worse than the Borg.
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Re: The Destroyer of All Western Values

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:48 am

Daralon says Rumsfeld don't believe, he's just hungry for power? Not true, Rumsfeld believes, in the Rumsfeld Doctrine, Military Modernization, King Dollah FTW, the whole shebang, don't think that he doesn't...

...and who was really against Rummy? Pentagon. Why? Forcing them to change. So? Ran to the liberal media to incite a mutiny.
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Re: The Destroyer of All Western Values

Post by heydaralon » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:53 am

Smitty-48 wrote:Daralon says Rumsfeld don't believe, he's just hungry for power? Not true, Rumsfeld believes, in the Rumsfeld Doctrine, Military Modernization, King Dollah FTW, the whole shebang, don't think that he doesn't...

...and who was really against Rummy? Pentagon. Why? Forcing them to change. So? Ran to the liberal media to incite a mutiny.
I said that he didn't really take the neocon vision too seriously.


He didn't really seem to care a whole lot why we invaded.


In regards to the invasion: " didn't advocate invasion…I wasn't asked." -Rumsfeld

More interested in executing policy than a grand ideology imo
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Re: The Destroyer of All Western Values

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:01 pm

heydaralon wrote:More interested in executing policy than a grand ideology imo
Executing policy is an ideology unto itself, that my ideology too; HM Paliamentary Supremacy, God, Queen, Country, stand on guard for thee, politically agnostic, so long as Liz Windsor rules here.

Now, why did Shinseki say what he said? What was his ideology? Go Army, beat Navy/AirForce. What was his beef? Rumsfeld Doctrine; no boots on the ground.

No boots on the ground, what about the Army?

Quick in and out, then back to barracks.

Shinseki & Co; "Oh hells no, sho you need a million Army boots in there, somebody get the liberal media on the phone and tell them Rumsfeld is a nut!"
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Re: The Destroyer of All Western Values

Post by DBTrek » Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:10 pm

Pssssst . . .

. . . hey Canada . . .

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