Another Reason the Wall is Dumb

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Re: Another Reason the Wall is Dumb

Post by The Conservative » Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:43 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Uhhhh right.
Explain
Whoever provides a link wins.
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Re: Another Reason the Wall is Dumb

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:48 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
Explain
Whoever provides a link wins.
Now look at your “stats” vs what he just said.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Another Reason the Wall is Dumb

Post by clubgop » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:36 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Martin Hash wrote: Whoever provides a link wins.
Now look at your “stats” vs what he just said.
When the facts are on your side argue the facts, when the emotions are on your side argue the emotions. When neither of those exist argue semantics. Good Job, you are not for Open borders, just laws no one ever enforces.

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Re: Another Reason the Wall is Dumb

Post by JohnDonne » Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:29 am

The Hashman is right.
The federal prison population is not representative of incarcerated populations on the state and local level, so excluding them from the report means that it sheds little light on nationwide incarcerations by nativity, legal status, or type of crime. On the last point, it is shocking how unrepresentative federal prison is regarding the types of crimes its inmates are convicted of. In 2016, 67,742 people were sentenced to federal prison. Almost 30 percent of them were for immigration offenses. Those immigration convictions comprised 100 percent of the convictions for immigration crimes in the United States in 2016. By contrast, there were only 85 federal convictions for murder out of a nationwide total of 17,785 murder convictions that year, comprising less than 0.5 percent of all murders.
https://www.cato.org/blog/new-report-il ... ortcomings
Good Job, you are not for Open borders, just laws no one ever enforces.
Try taking a more nuanced view of things clubsy. One can be for a law, such as those governing speed limits, without insisting that whoever goes a few miles over be ticketed and thrown in jail. There can be a level of enforcement that people find excessive and a level people find acceptable. There are more views available than just "Zomg you want anarchy open BOrders!" and "Zomg you want to deport eleven million people."

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Re: Another Reason the Wall is Dumb

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:28 am

Yeah, the federal courts tend to target certain segments by virtue of their jurisdictions. For violent crimes, you are talking about crimes committed on federal property.

If you go to the FBI statistics, a huge amount of our violent crime is actually happening in a few urban areas with high black populations. I don't think FBI stats break down the immigrant status, though, and I doubt it because they already deliberately conflate Latinos with whites in order to make whites look more violent than they are.

You really can't say much about the crime statistics with respect to immigration because the government deliberately obfuscates the data.

The policy of calling them whites really betrays the motive as well. I can think of no legitimate reason why law enforcement agencies anywhere would classify an obvious hispanic dude as white.

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Re: Another Reason the Wall is Dumb

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:08 am

There should be a sort of tribunal set up to determine ones racial classification, by skin color, size of nose, hair type, etc. it should be made up of paranoid, unemployed white men.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Another Reason the Wall is Dumb

Post by Viktorthepirate » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:39 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:There should be a sort of tribunal set up to determine ones racial classification, by skin color, size of nose, hair type, etc. it should be made up of paranoid, unemployed white men.

:lol: that was hilarious.

He's right though, racial classification is stupid. But when people use those statistics they should be prepared for someone to call out the weird classifications.

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Re: Another Reason the Wall is Dumb

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:11 am

No need. We already have one

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Re: Another Reason the Wall is Dumb

Post by C-Mag » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:54 pm

Viktorthepirate wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:There should be a sort of tribunal set up to determine ones racial classification, by skin color, size of nose, hair type, etc. it should be made up of paranoid, unemployed white men.

:lol: that was hilarious.

He's right though, racial classification is stupid. But when people use those statistics they should be prepared for someone to call out the weird classifications.

If only there was a science to guide us in racial classification.
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Re: Another Reason the Wall is Dumb

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:26 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Viktorthepirate wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:There should be a sort of tribunal set up to determine ones racial classification, by skin color, size of nose, hair type, etc. it should be made up of paranoid, unemployed white men.

:lol: that was hilarious.

He's right though, racial classification is stupid. But when people use those statistics they should be prepared for someone to call out the weird classifications.

If only there was a science to guide us in racial classification.

We have one

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