Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

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Re: Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

Post by DrYouth » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:27 pm

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Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:00 pm
The sad thing to me is that with all the modern instantaneous communication we have we haven't at all grown more together and cooperative, but rather more at odds. Somehow it seems the thinking is the only way to "be happy" is to be on top, to have control and run it all. I'm honestly glad I probably won't be alive in 40-50 years to see what the world is like then at the rate we're going.
Women wanted empowerment and they got it.

Now they suffer from the added stress that empowerment brings.

Men are not particularly thrilled about their women folk being more stressed... a stressed woman can be a real challenge.

Men liked it when they could shelter their women and their women were available at the end of the work day... but this is a thing of the past.

It's a colder and lonelier world.... but I guess we all have to grow up... and a successful empowered woman can be a real joy to behold.

Maybe we can find a new way of getting along and I suppose many of us are doing just that.
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Re: Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

Post by Fife » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:33 pm

DrYouth wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:27 pm
Ph64 wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:00 pm
The sad thing to me is that with all the modern instantaneous communication we have we haven't at all grown more together and cooperative, but rather more at odds. Somehow it seems the thinking is the only way to "be happy" is to be on top, to have control and run it all. I'm honestly glad I probably won't be alive in 40-50 years to see what the world is like then at the rate we're going.
Women wanted empowerment and they got it.

Now they suffer from the added stress that empowerment brings.

Men are not particularly thrilled about their women folk being more stressed... a stressed woman can be a real challenge.

Men liked it when they could shelter their women and their women were available at the end of the work day... but this is a thing of the past.

It's a colder and lonelier world.... but I guess we all have to grow up... and a successful empowered woman can be a real joy to behold.

Maybe we can find a new way of getting along and I suppose many of us are doing just that.

Yes, colder and lonelier, now that everyone is relieved of the responsibility of actually taking care of day-to-day life. "Denial of reality = Empowerment;" OK. I can't decide if your post is divorced from reality, sexist, or both. I'm going with both for the time being.

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Re: Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

Post by Ph64 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:38 pm

MilSpecs wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:21 pm
Ph64 wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:00 pm
MilSpecs wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:35 pm


You're assuming most men have an interest in manual labor and that women can't learn the trades.
OMG, not at all, I think women can learn all those things. But it certainly seems like they don't/aren't to a large degree. Why is that?

I'm just thinking if you're planning on taking over the world you might want to think about having more women take up those roles that make modern society function. If you want to alienate/blame men don't be surprised when they just "turn off, drop out", which according to the news is already happening to a degree... you might want to plan on taking up those things yourselves.

The sad thing to me is that with all the modern instantaneous communication we have we haven't at all grown more together and cooperative, but rather more at odds. Somehow it seems the thinking is the only way to "be happy" is to be on top, to have control and run it all. I'm honestly glad I probably won't be alive in 40-50 years to see what the world is like then at the rate we're going.
We may be alive in 40-50 years the way medical advances are going. That said, it's obviously a time of great upheaval. I'm cautiously optimistic and think we'll work it out.

I think women don't learn the trades because they weren't 'apprenticed' like their brothers. My dad learned plumbing as a child along with his brothers, but his female cousins weren't taught. It just wasn't done. I wasn't taught any trade skills at all, but my brother was. Tasks were gender segregated.
I can see that. of course, were your dad's cousins interested/asking to be taught/learn? So have you learned plumbing since? Are you teaching your daughters of having their father teach them? And... If not, why not?

My dad never taught me plumbing, but I learned once I was a homeowner. My grandfather was a TV repairman (back in the days), so I learned some electronics there, but mostly taught myself digital electronics/computers/programming reading his 73/radio-electronics magazines, plus a lot of other tech stuff in popular science, and just reading the databooks on tubes/transistors/components/theory he had, on my own. Most of what I know about car repair is self-taught (reading/researching). Seems to me if you're interested in something you'll make an effort to learn more about it?

We have the power of the internet, millions upon millions of pages of information on every topic imaginable *if* you want to learn. It's not my fault if you're only interested in cat videos and texting people. :roll:

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Re: Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

Post by MilSpecs » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:45 pm

Ph64 wrote:
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I can see that. of course, were your dad's cousins interested/asking to be taught/learn? So have you learned plumbing since? Are you teaching your daughters of having their father teach them? And... If not, why not?
None of them are alive for me to ask. I doubt it was something they would have considered to be possible for them, considering the time and culture. I taught myself very rudimentary pipefitting so I could build a car wash for the kids when they were little. I loved it, but I've always liked learning new skills and working with my hands. The kids had no interest.
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Re: Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

Post by DrYouth » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:35 pm

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I taught myself very rudimentary pipefitting so I could build a car wash for the kids when they were little.
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Did your toddler's wash their cars in the car wash?
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Re: Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

Post by Montegriffo » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:43 pm

DrYouth wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:35 pm
MilSpecs wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:45 pm
I taught myself very rudimentary pipefitting so I could build a car wash for the kids when they were little.
:shock:
Did your toddler's wash their cars in the car wash?
kid ferrari.jpg
I really wanted to learn more about that too but didn't want to derail a good thread. Since the good doctor has already turned off the road, tell us more Milspecs.
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Re: Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:45 pm

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A bit of reality to ground things.

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Re: Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

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Just came out today...

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Re: Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

Post by MilSpecs » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:53 pm

DrYouth wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:35 pm
MilSpecs wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:45 pm
I taught myself very rudimentary pipefitting so I could build a car wash for the kids when they were little.
:shock:
Did your toddler's wash their cars in the car wash?
kid ferrari.jpg
Yes they did, once, and then they just ran through it. And the Little Tikes was indeed red.
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Re: Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

Post by MilSpecs » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:02 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:43 pm
DrYouth wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:35 pm
MilSpecs wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:45 pm
I taught myself very rudimentary pipefitting so I could build a car wash for the kids when they were little.
:shock:
Did your toddler's wash their cars in the car wash?
kid ferrari.jpg
I really wanted to learn more about that too but didn't want to derail a good thread. Since the good doctor has already turned off the road, tell us more Milspecs.
It was PVC pipe with holes punched in it and colorful details like pool noodles and plastic car wash streamers. They're supposed to drive the plastic Little Tikes through it. I got the instructions from Family Fun magazine. You hook up a hose to it and it has a swinging gate. It would have been nothing for you guys, but it was a big deal for me to cut and fit pipes.
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