Net Neutrality

[SuburbanFarmer]

Because they keep eating each other up.

Yet pricing is nearly identical, and data speeds are the same.

Not really, there are multiple groups out there, but it all depends how you want to play the game.

You can buy service from a dozen different "providers", but they're all renting from the Big 2. Your signal is carried on one or the other.

[The Conservative]

Yet pricing is nearly identical, and data speeds are the same.

Not really, there are multiple groups out there, but it all depends how you want to play the game.

You can buy service from a dozen different "providers", but they're all renting from the Big 2. Your signal is carried on one or the other.

So which do you think are the big two?

[SuburbanFarmer]

Not really, there are multiple groups out there, but it all depends how you want to play the game.

You can buy service from a dozen different "providers", but they're all renting from the Big 2. Your signal is carried on one or the other.

So which do you think are the big two?

Verizon and ATT. Sprint has less than 1/3rd of either of them, and uses ATT's network, IIRC.

[The Conservative]

You can buy service from a dozen different "providers", but they're all renting from the Big 2. Your signal is carried on one or the other.

So which do you think are the big two?

Verizon and ATT. Sprint has less than 1/3rd of either of them, and uses ATT's network, IIRC.

Might want to look that up again.

[SuburbanFarmer]

So which do you think are the big two?

Verizon and ATT. Sprint has less than 1/3rd of either of them, and uses ATT's network, IIRC.

Might want to look that up again.

Here. Look at the host networks. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... _operators

By subscribers:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... _providers

[The Conservative]

Verizon and ATT. Sprint has less than 1/3rd of either of them, and uses ATT's network, IIRC.

Might want to look that up again.

Here. Look at the host networks. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... _operators

By subscribers:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... _providers

Please do, there are at least four by your links.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Might want to look that up again.

Here. Look at the host networks. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... _operators

By subscribers:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... _providers

Please do, there are at least four by your links.

And, as I said, there are 2 distinct protocols used. I believe Sprint is using Verizon’s protocol, and T-Mobile uses ATTs.

They are incompatible, and require entirely separate networks.
https://www.myrateplan.com/cell_phone_b ... technology

[Speaker to Animals]

That was the 2000s and that's the network architecture. I helped build iDEN. As far as I know, it's still widely used in some parts of the world due to cost effectiveness, especially relating to range.

These says, it's all about GSM and the latest version of CDMA.

Just because a network uses the GSM architecture does not mean it's all part of one thing. I think AT&T and T Mobile both use GSM but they each own their own network. Verizon is CDMA. CDMA does not really compete well with GSM.

CDMA is like the Model T to GSM's Tesla.

[nmoore63]

Did this thread make any new points about NN that we didn’t hash out in the thread on the DCF?

[Penner]

Here is the article that I posted earlier about NN:

On Tuesday, the US Federal Communications Commission announced that it planned to vote on an order to roll back Obama-era rules governing net neutrality.

Simply put, net neutrality means that all data on the internet is treated equally. An internet service provider can't prioritize certain companies or types of data, charge users more to access certain websites and apps, or charge businesses for preferential access.

Advocates of net neutrality argue that it ensures a level playing field for everyone on the internet. Telecoms firms, however, are largely against it because of the additional restrictions it places on them.

But with the Republican-majority FCC likely to vote on December 14 in favor of rolling back the order, what might the American internet look like without net neutrality? Just look at Portugal.

The country's wireless carrier Meo offers a package that's very different from those available in the US. Users pay for traditional "data" — and on top of that, they pay for additional packages based on the kind of data and apps they want to use.

http://www.businessinsider.com/net-neut ... cc-2017-11

I also find it amazing that a number of people are so willing to let NN to die. It's like they don't like any protections and are willingly fine with their elected representatives voting away things that are design to not allow companies to screw you out of your money, rights, and property.