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Re: North Korea News

Post by BjornP » Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:23 am



..is just around the corner.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by TheReal_ND » Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:26 am

>China fears conflict at any moment
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39600426

>China says North Korea must be stopped before reaching an irreversible stage
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-northk ... 7E2CP?il=0

>Pyongyang ready for war against Trump
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/04/n ... 17870.html

>Japan discusses evacuation plan of South Korean citizens
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-north ... =worldNews

>Video shows Chinese tanks rolling towards the North Korean border
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest- ... tary-video

>Air China suspends all flights to Pyongyang
http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-a ... day-report

>The real pre-emptive strike might actually come from North Korea, Kim threatens
http://thehill.com/policy/international ... of-its-own

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Re: North Korea News

Post by skankhunt42 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:30 am

What if anything would still work after an EMP?
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Re: North Korea News

Post by TheReal_ND » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:33 am

Carburetors.

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Re: North Korea News

Post by Xenophon » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:56 am

Outhouses.

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Re: North Korea News

Post by The Conservative » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:35 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
skankhunt42 wrote:I never read the book but how realistic is it that North Korea could pull off EMP blasts over the United States?

Can they launch a missile into suborbit? If the answer is yes, then they can do it.
They would have to explode three nukes to cover all of the US at the size they have them now minimum... in reality, NK could not do it... China on the other hand, or Russia... that's another story.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:40 am

An EMP attack against the CONUS by detonating in the ionosphere, is going to be treated as a nuclear attack, the retaliation would be nuclear, counterforce if perhaps not countervalue, so the NK's are no less deterred from doing that than they are deterred from launching against Los Angeles, and they are not suicidal, the people who run the regime are not looking to get a nuke down the ventilation shaft of their command bunker, so the idea that the NK's are not rational actors and so are invulnerable to deterence, is nonsense.

The notion that the United States has to go over to the offence and force a regime change, "because dem Commies is crazy, they'll nuke us without a second thought", is Red Scare hysteria to the absurd. The American deterrent is more than credible against the puny NK's, they are no more likely to nuke you out of the blue than the Russians and/or Chinese are, in fact, since the NK's are not on hair trigger alert, they are far less likely to, because the most likely scenario for that, is actually a catastrophic mistake rather than with intent.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by The Conservative » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:59 am

Smitty-48 wrote:An EMP attack against the CONUS by detonating in the ionosphere, is going to be treated as a nuclear attack, the retaliation would be nuclear, counterforce if perhaps not countervalue, so the NK's are no less deterred from doing that than they are deterred from launching against Los Angeles, and they are not suicidal, the people who run the regime are not looking to get a nuke down the ventilation shaft of their command bunker, so the idea that the NK's are not rational actors and so are invulnerable to deterence, is nonsense.

The notion that the United States has to go over to the offence and force a regime change, "because dem Commies is crazy, they'll nuke us without a second thought", is Red Scare hysteria to the absurd. The American deterrent is more than credible against the puny NK's, they are no more likely to nuke you out of the blue than the Russians and/or Chinese are, in fact, since the NK's are not on hair trigger alert, they are far less likely to, because the most likely scenario for that, is actually a catastrophic mistake rather than with intent.
NK may not be sducidal, but you said nothing about their leader.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:01 pm

If he was suicidal, he wouldn't spend all his time desperately trying to fend off an internal putsch, killing off his potential challengers before they kill him, up to and including his own brother, so get real.

Survival instinct, is the driving force at the center of this regime, they have no ideology, other than self preservation. As such, they are far more vulnerable to deterrence than the average, some adversaries might actually risk it all for a cause, but the DPRK is at the bottom of the list that way.

It's really not that complex, this regime has made the same calculation that all despotic regimes have made; the United States won't mess with you if you have nuclear weapons, even if you only have a handful of them, the nuclear weapon is the deterrent you need to keep the Americans at bay, if you don't have nuclear weapons, then there is a possibility of the United States attempting to force a regime change, ergo, nuclear weapons are a must, to ensure self preservation.
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