Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by Hastur » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:01 am

Meanwhile, we find out that compared to 1970 we now have 60% fewer vertebrates animals living on earth.

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I wonder how they will blame that fact on CO2 emissions.
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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by Ph64 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:36 am

PartyOf5 wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:29 am
163 million people have a worse affect. Can we get rid of them instead?

Maybe this group should meet up with the group forcing us to abandon plastic straws because it may kill a turtle. Sad part is that they will agree to save the turtle, get rid of straws, and kill the dog instead.
Africa is (iirc) the only continent that still has a growing (greater than replacement) population. Just nuke the entire continent. The rest of the planet will take care of itself over time.

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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by C-Mag » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:37 pm

Africa is selling Lions to hunters, one is named Mufasa, he's a rare blonde lion. But by selling him, they can fund taking care of thousands of others.
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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by C-Mag » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:42 pm

A Model predicting we are entering a Super Grand Minimum


Professor Valentina Zharkova gave a presentation of her Climate and the Solar Magnetic Field hypothesis at the Global Warming Policy Foundation in October, 2018.

Zharkova was one of the few that correctly predicted solar cycle 24 would be weaker than cycle 23 – only 2 out of 150 models predicted this.
Her models have run at a 93% accuracy and her findings suggest a Super Grand Solar Minimum is on the cards beginning 2020 and running for 350-400 years.


https://www.theburningplatform.com/2018 ... ore-186985
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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by BjornP » Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:11 am

Ph64 wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:36 am
PartyOf5 wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:29 am
163 million people have a worse affect. Can we get rid of them instead?

Maybe this group should meet up with the group forcing us to abandon plastic straws because it may kill a turtle. Sad part is that they will agree to save the turtle, get rid of straws, and kill the dog instead.
Africa is (iirc) the only continent that still has a growing (greater than replacement) population. Just nuke the entire continent. The rest of the planet will take care of itself over time.
How much do you think the average African consumes compared to the average American? When making the comparison, try and factor in a comparison of how many imported foodstuffs the average African vs the average African consumes (think of how much fuel goes into transporting avocadoes to vegans, for example...).
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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by JohnDonne » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:07 am

BjornP wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:11 am
Ph64 wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:36 am
PartyOf5 wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:29 am
163 million people have a worse affect. Can we get rid of them instead?

Maybe this group should meet up with the group forcing us to abandon plastic straws because it may kill a turtle. Sad part is that they will agree to save the turtle, get rid of straws, and kill the dog instead.
Africa is (iirc) the only continent that still has a growing (greater than replacement) population. Just nuke the entire continent. The rest of the planet will take care of itself over time.
How much do you think the average African consumes compared to the average American? When making the comparison, try and factor in a comparison of how many imported foodstuffs the average African vs the average African consumes (think of how much fuel goes into transporting avocadoes to vegans, for example...).
Or think of the energy it costs to produce the lard for one pastry.

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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by Montegriffo » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:09 am

JohnDonne wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:07 am
BjornP wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:11 am
Ph64 wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:36 am


Africa is (iirc) the only continent that still has a growing (greater than replacement) population. Just nuke the entire continent. The rest of the planet will take care of itself over time.
How much do you think the average African consumes compared to the average American? When making the comparison, try and factor in a comparison of how many imported foodstuffs the average African vs the average African consumes (think of how much fuel goes into transporting avocadoes to vegans, for example...).
Or think of the energy it costs to produce the lard for one pastry.
Plus the energy used to produce their feed.
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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by JohnDonne » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:20 am

Hard to find a comparative diet study that does not show veganism as being much less environmentally harmful than other diets.

I’m sure there are some trash click-bait articles that one can pull up that make a dubious rhetorical connection between veganism and avocados and pomegranates.

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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by Hastur » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:31 am

We should eat meat from animals that doesn't graze on farmable land or eat farm crops. More chicken, goat, lamb rabbit pork and game meat. Feed the chicken insects bread from waste instead of corn and let goats and sheep graze on rocky ground and other places we don't use for farming. Cows like it in forests and wetlands as well.
We should take better care of our food waste and give it to the pigs. That's what they're for.
It will be more expensive meat but it will be sustainable and it will taste better.
We don't need to eat as much meat as we do but we don't need to give it up completely either.
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Re: Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

Post by Montegriffo » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:44 am

Hastur wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:31 am
We should eat meat from animals that doesn't graze on farmable land or eat farm crops. More chicken, goat, lamb rabbit pork and game meat. Feed the chicken insects bread from waste instead of corn and let goats and sheep graze on rocky ground and other places we don't use for farming. Cows like it in forests and wetlands as well.
We should take better care of our food waste and give it to the pigs. That's what they're for.
It will be more expensive meat but it will be sustainable and it will taste better.
We don't need to eat as much meat as we do but we don't need to give it up completely either.
Agreed.
Bring production standards up and increase the quality and prices back to the point where meat is a luxury as it has been throughout history.
That way the consumer pays.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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