They never believed in it. They were for "free speech" when university administrators would let them cause disruptions on campus to promote their degeneracy. As soon as they became the administrators, though..C-Mag wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:35 amI just want to know why they gave up on free speech in favor of getting a hundred miles of dick and fist shoved up your ass, just to call it freedom and civil rights.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:33 amAnd never forget what Jedi just demonstrated. They see you escaping their persecution as you oppressing them. You cannot discuss anything with these people. They are the enemy.
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Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:37 amThey never believed in it. They were for "free speech" when university administrators would let them cause disruptions on campus to promote their degeneracy. As soon as they became the administrators, though..C-Mag wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:35 amI just want to know why they gave up on free speech in favor of getting a hundred miles of dick and fist shoved up your ass, just to call it freedom and civil rights.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:33 amAnd never forget what Jedi just demonstrated. They see you escaping their persecution as you oppressing them. You cannot discuss anything with these people. They are the enemy.
Could be.
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I mean, ACLU?C-Mag wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:27 amAs far as I can tell, Leftism today is about Free Sexual...………………. whatever. The freedom to have a dick or a fist shoved up ones ass, the freedom for a dude to dress up like a chick and go in the ladies toilet or locker room, the right for adults to have sex with children.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:18 amThey would characterize Christians escaping persecution at the hands of homosexuals a case of Christians oppressing them.
The story of Sodom is their blueprint.
Just as the ancient Sodomites demanded Lot's children, these modern sodomites demand your children, and when you successfully preserve your children from that fate, they will call that "opprression".
WTF happened to real civil rights on the Left !
Cause that doesn't exist, I guess?
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Conservative values of free speech, freedom of assembly, and all that other Constitutional stuff the left abhors, led to everything from Civil Rights marches to KKK marches. It is the double-edged sword of freedom, with all glory and warts included. The ultimate manifestation of live and let live.
The left hates that kind of freedom. They can't abide any Klan rallies, and if they have to kill the same freedoms that allowed Civil Rights marches to occur to stop them, then so be it. If they have to kill the electoral college to stop another Trump, so be it. If they have to destroy our national borders to ensure enough ignorant peasants are available to secure them electoral victories, so be it. If they have to shut down speech platforms from social media, to universities, to pushing "hate speech" laws to ensure their message prevails, so be it.
There's nothing live-and-let-live about the left. Study Mao to Stalin to Pol Pot to Che Gueverra. The left isn't about freedom, it's about authoritarians enforcing the correct ideology on the masses. Even a cursory glance at 20th century history would teach you as much.
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The left hates that kind of freedom. They can't abide any Klan rallies, and if they have to kill the same freedoms that allowed Civil Rights marches to occur to stop them, then so be it. If they have to kill the electoral college to stop another Trump, so be it. If they have to destroy our national borders to ensure enough ignorant peasants are available to secure them electoral victories, so be it. If they have to shut down speech platforms from social media, to universities, to pushing "hate speech" laws to ensure their message prevails, so be it.
There's nothing live-and-let-live about the left. Study Mao to Stalin to Pol Pot to Che Gueverra. The left isn't about freedom, it's about authoritarians enforcing the correct ideology on the masses. Even a cursory glance at 20th century history would teach you as much.
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Perfect example. The ACLU has taken a stand against Due Process of Men on college campus' that are accused of sexual harassment.jediuser598 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:48 amI mean, ACLU?C-Mag wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:27 am
As far as I can tell, Leftism today is about Free Sexual...………………. whatever. The freedom to have a dick or a fist shoved up ones ass, the freedom for a dude to dress up like a chick and go in the ladies toilet or locker room, the right for adults to have sex with children.
WTF happened to real civil rights on the Left !
Cause that doesn't exist, I guess?
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Sure I suppose you can cherry pick history and completely ignore the liberal darling, ACLU, an organization that protected the civil rights of Nazis in Skokie, and who in Charlottesville, protected the alt-right's civil rights as well.DBTrek wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:00 amConservative values of free speech, freedom of assembly, and all that other Constitutional stuff the left abhors, led to everything from Civil Rights marches to KKK marches. It is the double-edged sword of freedom, with all glory and warts included. The ultimate manifestation of live and let live.
The left hates that kind of freedom. They can't abide any Klan rallies, and if they have to kill the same freedoms that allowed Civil Rights marches to occur to stop them, then so be it. If they have to kill the electoral college to stop another Trump, so be it. If they have to destroy our national borders to ensure enough ignorant peasants are available to secure them electoral victories, so be it. If they have to shut down speech platforms from social media, to universities, to pushing "hate speech" laws to ensure their message prevails, so be it.
There's nothing live-and-let-live about the left. Study Mao to Stalin to Pol Pot to Che Gueverra. The left isn't about freedom, it's about authoritarians enforcing the correct ideology on the masses. Even a cursory glance at 20th century history would teach you as much.
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I cited the pre-eminent leftist regimes of the last century and drew parallels with the current leftist agenda we see being advanced in America.jediuser598 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:10 amSure I suppose you can cherry pick history and completely ignore the liberal darling, ACLU, an organization that protected the civil rights of Nazis in Skokie, and who in Charlottesville, protected the alt-right's civil rights as well.
You responded by selectively singling out two ACLU cases while completely avoiding Carlus' larger criticisms of the modern ACLU.
Who's really cherry picking here, boyo?
Seems pretty obvious.
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The modern Left is the party of Caligula
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In the strategy of opening up “rights” against an oppressive majority, you need to keep finding smaller and smaller groups to champion while conversely, the scope of the rights continues to expand. This is where that process has brought us.C-Mag wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:27 amAs far as I can tell, Leftism today is about Free Sexual...………………. whatever. The freedom to have a dick or a fist shoved up ones ass, the freedom for a dude to dress up like a chick and go in the ladies toilet or locker room, the right for adults to have sex with children.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:18 amThey would characterize Christians escaping persecution at the hands of homosexuals a case of Christians oppressing them.
The story of Sodom is their blueprint.
Just as the ancient Sodomites demanded Lot's children, these modern sodomites demand your children, and when you successfully preserve your children from that fate, they will call that "opprression".
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This is 2019. 2003 and 2011 are both in the past. Why bring it up now?jediuser598 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:17 amThis was 2003 for Lawrence v Texas and 2011 for DADT.
How many of you believe that gay people should be allowed to serve openly?
How many of you believe that gay people should be allowed to marry?
How many of you believe that sodomy should be illegal?
How many of you believe that gay couples should be allowed to adopt?
If 90% of us answered yes to all of those, what then? What is your point in continuously asking what I'm betting are "gotcha" questions of some kind, although I'm not sure what the gotcha is.
Personally, I don't care if gay couples adopt. The original parents didn't want to care for them. If there is someone who will, then that's a good things, as long as the vetting process prevents the child from going to an unsafe home. Being a gay couple doesn't make them unsafe. Same with gay marriage. Heteros have no high ground on marriage seeing as how the divorce rate was at 50% not long ago.