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They didn't actually win the national election, though. They had seats in the legislature, but Hitler lost. He was then appointed as Chancellor and managed to get all kinds of draconian laws passed when the reds committed acts of terror against the state.
That part is often glossed over by the left. The left and their violence is what made it possible.
That part is often glossed over by the left. The left and their violence is what made it possible.
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Zlaxer wrote:Okeefenokee wrote:If my memory serves me, the National Socialists never won a single national election in all the years they existed before the depression hit.
How fucking old are you?
Oh, my bad. My memory of the Nazi party election history I learned years ago.
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.
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Right. That's what I meant. I don't know how local elections went back then, and I don't know if NatSoc won any of them, but they did go on a winning streak in the legislature at the national level. Maybe not a proper sweep, but considering how much losing they'd done prior to that point, a big turn in fortunes coming on the heels of a calamitous economic downturn.Speaker to Animals wrote:They didn't actually win the national election, though. They had seats in the legislature, but Hitler lost. He was then appointed as Chancellor and managed to get all kinds of draconian laws passed when the reds committed acts of terror against the state.
That part is often glossed over by the left. The left and their violence is what made it possible.
And that turn in fortunes was enough to scare the rest of the government into considering the once inconsequential Nazi party to be worth noticing, because there was no indication whatsoever that the economy was going to turn around any time soon, nor were the revolutionaries and counterrevolutionaries fighting in the streets likely to go away. So Hindenburg decides to bring Hitler into the fold so he can be monitored and reigned in, which...I mean, how much epic fail can you attach to one name?
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Hey. It's the director.Viktorthepirate wrote:Okeefenokee wrote:I still believe that the largest factor in what happened in Germany and other places where national collectivism rose up to confront international collectivism was the economy.
If my memory serves me, the National Socialists never won a single national election in all the years they existed before the depression hit. The fascists and the communists were battling it out in the streets like what we see now, but the majority of the people were focused on rebuilding in the interwar years. The task at hand was the recovery, which was being made possible by loans from America, and the rabble rousers got little attention from the general public, as nothing they were doing could be seen as part of the rebuilding effort.
Then the depression hits in America. The loans to Germany are cut off. Germany drops into a worse depression. People are starving. Money is worthless. People hear stories of children being snatched up to be eaten, and keep their own children locked inside their homes.
Then Hitler comes to power. Not because that's when he showed up. He had been around for years, but no one listened to him, or voted for the National Socialists, while there was hope they could rebuild through good ol' fashioned hard work.
I think that's the group in the middle people are wondering about. The people who see these radicals making noise on both sides, but DON'T grab a bat to go out and join them. The group in the middle is the people who act like civilized people, and go to work each day. As long as the majority of us are in that group, we're fine.
We might need to go to a six day work week, because two days off each week to fly to a riot, and be back at work on Monday, might be just enough rope to hang ourselves.
Except for 6 day work week, fuck you.
Yeah, put this in Vik's file. Let me know if he buys any plane tickets or firecrackers.
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Adam's got it. It's all the news.
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Can we just bury this myth once and for all. The Nazis clearly won in 1933.They didn't get an absolute majority, but that very seldom happens in European multi party systems. Does tis look like a defeat to you?Speaker to Animals wrote:They didn't actually win the national election, though. They had seats in the legislature, but Hitler lost. He was then appointed as Chancellor and managed to get all kinds of draconian laws passed when the reds committed acts of terror against the state.
That part is often glossed over by the left. The left and their violence is what made it possible.
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John McCain is attempting to match it...Okeefenokee wrote: how much epic fail can you attach to one name?
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Hastur wrote:Can we just bury this myth once and for all. The Nazis clearly won in 1933.They didn't get an absolute majority, but that very seldom happens in European multi party systems. Does tis look like a defeat to you?Speaker to Animals wrote:They didn't actually win the national election, though. They had seats in the legislature, but Hitler lost. He was then appointed as Chancellor and managed to get all kinds of draconian laws passed when the reds committed acts of terror against the state.
That part is often glossed over by the left. The left and their violence is what made it possible.
We are talking about the election for head of state, dude. Hitler lost.
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Oops - ok then carry on. I just keep hearing everywhere how the nazis never won an election. Sore toe.
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Seems like a good place for this.
The Insidious Libertarian-to-Alt-Right Pipeline
Is it just a phase they go through—or is there something about libertarianism that attracts, well, uh, you know, racist kooks?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-insidi ... via=mobile
The Insidious Libertarian-to-Alt-Right Pipeline
Is it just a phase they go through—or is there something about libertarianism that attracts, well, uh, you know, racist kooks?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-insidi ... via=mobile
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