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[KerningChameleon]

Lolz....no......

They take out 1 US city....no more DPRK....the shoot one missile that looks like it's headed for US territory....we intercept...then no more DPRK....stop drinking the koolaid...

We can make thousands of interceptors....how many ICBMs can the DPRK make?

They don't have to actually shoot the missile (well, missiles, who knows how many of the things they'll be able to produce and have on standby as the years go on), they just have to prove they can and convince you they will fire them if they feel existentially threatened. Which goes beyond actual invasion, they will almost certainly agitate in the coming months that continued sanctions represent a now intolerable threat to the North Korean state. It's good old Nixon Play-The-Madman Theory. And it'll work, people in power are way more skittish about the possibility of actual nuclear attack outbreak than you seem to believe. Probably because they have a much more informed view of what the actual threat landscape is, and how dancing on the knife's edge we really are.

Also, interceptors don't do jack against ICBMs, those suckers fly out past the ISS, that's what allows them to be intercontinental. You seem to be operating on very poor, incomplete knowledge of how modern nuclear weapons actually work, our so-called "missile defence" is a fucking security blanket, not an actual reliable counter-measure.

And no - DPRK launches a single missile that even looks like its coming for CONOUS and they're done....the leadership around son of Jong will not allow that to come to pass...for if it does...no more DPRK...its that fucking simple....

Look up the word "brinkmanship" sometime. They're gonna be playing Chicken for all the marbles they can grab in the coming years, mark my words.

If any of what you said was true, then why did the nuclear weapons program not just not abate, but accelerate under Un's leadership? If you believe their nuclear weapons are so impotent, then why do they want them so damn bad? And no, "durr hurr crazy Kims/Norks" is not an acceptable answer, the North Korean government have proven time and time again, for all their rhetoric, they are coldly, cynically realpolitik when it comes to their actions.

[Smitty-48]

The NK's are unlikely to launch against the CONUS until such time as they have scores of ICBM's, way more than the GMD could intercept, and their leadership will be dispersed and dug in, so your retaliation wouldn't hit them, and they don't care how many of their slaves you kill, meanwhile, 100 million or so Americans dead and/or dying in the process, in a radioactive wasteland.

[Zlaxer]

If any of what you said was true, then why did the nuclear weapons program not just not abate, but accelerate under Un's leadership?

Thanks Obama.....

[Zlaxer]

The DPRK wants nukes to prevent a US invasion....they want the cost of invasion to be high....I highly doubt they would ever launch a first strike.....


It would mean the end of the DPRK....

[KerningChameleon]

If any of what you said was true, then why did the nuclear weapons program not just not abate, but accelerate under Un's leadership?

Thanks Obama.....

You have identified a partially contributing factor to the facilitation of their goal (although, if this were wholly true, why did this acceleration not occur during Il's last days), but not an actual motivation.

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The DPRK wants nukes to prevent a US invasion....they want the cost of invasion to be high....I highly doubt they would ever launch a first strike.....


It would mean the end of the DPRK....

Better, but you still seem to imply the NK government is entirely satisfied with the current status quo, which I believe they are not. You don't modestly raise when you've got a full house, or least you don't end the hand like that.

[Smitty-48]

Look up the word "brinkmanship" sometime. They're gonna be playing Chicken for all the marbles they can grab in the coming years, mark my words.

Precisely, and therein lies the danger, because contrary to popular sentiment, they're not building this arsenal as a deterrent, they are planning to use it as leverage.

It's not a stable nuclear standoff, because they are not going to sit on their hands; they are trying to win, this is their forty year project, to win the Korean War.

They are confident that you are not going to attack them, but that is not the point, they are not out to prevent an attack, they intend to drive you off the peninsula, through nuclear blackmail, which, that's gonna get pretty fuckin' hairy, pretty fuckin' fast, but since they are a totalitarian doomsday cult which drinks its own Kool-Aid, they are not afraid to take it there, in fact, taking it there, it what they're all about.

They think you're bluffing, and you know why they think that? Because you are. They don't need these ICBM's to deter you, they've already got you totally deterred, so now they're taking it to the next level, which is pushing you right out of the theater altogether, doesn't matter if they could or not, they think they can, and that's what makes them so dangerous, because even trying to do it, is going to take things right to the brink in a Korean Missile Crisis paradigm, and once you get there, buckle up, because in the fog of war, nobody is really going to be in control of where it goes then.

If they do launch against the CONUS, the most likely scenario would be because they are blinded in the fog of war, and as a result launch because they think they are under attack, even if they aren't actually, because they don't have the early warning and ISR to know what it actually going on, and so they will have to be on such a hair trigger, that the slightest warning could cause them to go off, even if it is a false alarm.

You can't deter a launch on false warning, because it is by misapprehension, miscalculation and/or mistake, but you still get nuked either way, you can retaliate, but that doesn't do you any good, with a hundred megatons raining down upon you.

The Zlaxer theorem; when they nuke us, we'll nuke them? The DPRK for the USA? I'd say that's a bad trade, Pyrrhic victory if there ever was one.

This is the mother of all ticking time bombs, for which threatening it with retaliation is of little to no utility, because that assumes Pyongyang will have precise control of it, which, not bloody likely, come the fog of war at the brink.

[C-Mag]

Quote from 'The Mess'

Adapt the Aurora platform to run air strikes. Maybe even deploy kinetic rods from suborbit.

Rods from God may have been used to disrupt North Korea's Nuclear Program. Good call Doc !

On October 10, an earthquake struck North Korea's underground nuclear program, killing 200 workers.

Today, another earthquake struck.

Evidence shows that this may be the result of the Rods from God program -- a tungsten rod fired to Earth from space.......... a bundle of telephone-pole-size (20 feet long, 1 foot in diameter) tungsten rods, dropped from orbit, reaching a speed of up to 10 times the speed of sound.

http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2017/12/t ... ogram.html

Seismologists baffled about minor quakes in North Korea
https://www.nature.com/news/seismologis ... st-1.22618

[Speaker to Animals]

Pygmy apocalypse is nigh.

[C-Mag]

Pygmy apocalypse is nigh.

That would be pretty cool if we are using Rods from God to disrupt NorK Nuc program.

[Smitty-48]

Pygmy apocalypse is nigh.

That would be pretty cool if we are using Rods from God to disrupt NorK Nuc program.

Destroying the targets is not the problem, finding the targets is the problem, you don't need fancy Wunderwaffen to destroy their nukes, you need fancy Wunderintelligence to figure out where they are hiding them.

They're defensive strategy is dispersal and concealment, blowing the bunkers is easy, finding them all is the conundrum.