The Green Leap Forward

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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:29 pm

Which brings me back to this Green New Deal idea..

Why not just spend that money building charging stations across the United States at every interstate rest stop, and working with Tesla to produce a model that has good quality but without the bells and whistles?

Cities are where these things come into play, and urban drivers likely only need charging stations at rest stops. Imagine being able to drive from New York to LA without ever leaving the interstate system.

We don't live in a tiny European country. Everything is spread out far and wide. Our transportation solutions need to be based on individual vehicles outside the densest portions of the large cities, and inside the cities maybe focus on mass transit like monorails, which run on electricity.

To power the cars and mass transit, built thorium nuclear power plants.

Wouldn't that accomplish what everybody wants?

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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by C-Mag » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:32 pm

nmoore63 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:17 pm
Already on it.
In November, Washington voters spoke overwhelmingly, passing with nearly 60 percent of the vote a sweeping array of new gun regulations.

But, it turns out, voters might not have had the last word.

In at least 13 mostly rural counties across Washington, from the Pacific Coast to the eastern wheat fields, county sheriffs have publicly pledged not to enforce the new law, known as Initiative 1639, citing their personal opposition to it.

“My job as a sheriff is to throw bad guys in jail, but it’s also to protect the constitutional rights of citizens of our county,” said Klickitat County Sheriff Bob Songer, who said he will not be enforcing the new law. “I follow the rule of law when I believe it’s constitutional.”
Sheriffs in Grays Harbor, Pacific, Mason, Kittitas, Yakima, Klickitat, Grant, Benton, Franklin, Adams, Lincoln, Ferry and Stevens counties — where majorities of voters opposed 1639 — have all said they will not enforce the new law.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... nforce-it/
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/f ... they-wont/
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/f ... y-they-wo/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-washing ... 1550066400
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Yes, rural counties have been very good at this on Gun Confiscation. When BHO was priming us for Gun Confiscation our Sherriff wrote the Governor and told him he would not do it, first of all because all his deputies would die attempting it.

But I think traditional folks and rural states in particular need to start pushing back hard. Things like schools and over bearing regulations are a great place to start.
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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by doc_loliday » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:40 pm

Apparently Zach De La Rocha is worth 25 mil. There's money to be made them anti capitalist mountains.

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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by nmoore63 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:47 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:32 pm
Yes, rural counties have been very good at this on Gun Confiscation. When BHO was priming us for Gun Confiscation our Sherriff wrote the Governor and told him he would not do it, first of all because all his deputies would die attempting it.

But I think traditional folks and rural states in particular need to start pushing back hard. Things like schools and over bearing regulations are a great place to start.
I don't know how you even start.

You can get places if inaction is all that is required, but you're never going to get anywhere on asking inspectors and building contractors to ignore regulations.

The kind of folks that go into code enforcement are not the kind of folks that will lead on this... even in rural washington.

Particularly new construction.

Needed new schools for example are just going to continue to not get built because the overlords require too much flesh from poor people... for the poor's own good of course.

Its better the kids pee outside than we build a school without a bathroom for gender #4367.

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The port of ephrata finally condemned a building because the feds demanded it.

(ive told this one before but...)
My mother is one of the port commissioners for ephrata. We had an old WW2 barracks that the port rented to the "wheatland whirlers" square dance club for $50/mo. The whirlers took care of all the power/water/maintenance.

The feds came in and said $50 a month was too little. Gave the appearance of kickbacks or whatever. Demanded the port raise the rate to $1000 based on the square footage. She tried to explain that community just wanted to keep the building from being empty.

Government said no way. So the square dance club closed. Fast forward 5 years. Building is dilapidated and is now scheduled for demolition.

Averages are meaningless with a country as diverse and large as the United States.

Fucking government.

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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by doc_loliday » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:49 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:29 pm
Which brings me back to this Green New Deal idea..

Why not just spend that money building charging stations across the United States at every interstate rest stop, and working with Tesla to produce a model that has good quality but without the bells and whistles?
The problem isn't the idea necessarily. It's who is in charge of the idea. There are viable solutions. LA has been sitting on shitty traffic since the '80s and these ass clowns still keep getting voted in. Trains to nowhere is the best the CA government can do for transit.

And speaking of Musk, I know he's not perfect, but he's *actually built* a tunnel to move cars, even if only for electric cars, to do something about the mind numbing traffic.

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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by Ph64 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:51 pm

doc_loliday wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:40 pm
Apparently Zach De La Rocha is worth 25 mil. There's money to be made them anti capitalist mountains.
Of course there is... And reality is they are being capitalist exploiting the system. They don't really want true socialism, unless they think they'll wind up in control, because it would eliminate them profiting off it, but they have to keep the divisions sown to keep profiting. Same with BLM and Al Sharpton sowing racial division. They know exactly what they're doing, their financial future depends on keeping it going.

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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by Ph64 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:54 pm

doc_loliday wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:49 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:29 pm
Which brings me back to this Green New Deal idea..

Why not just spend that money building charging stations across the United States at every interstate rest stop, and working with Tesla to produce a model that has good quality but without the bells and whistles?
The problem isn't the idea necessarily. It's who is in charge of the idea. There are viable solutions. LA has been sitting on shitty traffic since the '80s and these ass clowns still keep getting voted in. Trains to nowhere is the best the CA government can do for transit.

And speaking of Musk, I know he's not perfect, but he's *actually built* a tunnel to move cars, even if only for electric cars, to do something about the mind numbing traffic.

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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by doc_loliday » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:03 pm

The point is not that he created a tunnel that is going to fix all of LA's traffic. That's going to take way more effort than a prototype tunnel. The point is that some people have the ability and drive to get things done and some don't. A party whose function has shifted to pointing out oppression everywhere is incapable of meeting the infrastructure demands of our cities.
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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by C-Mag » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:05 pm

nmoore63 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:47 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:32 pm
Yes, rural counties have been very good at this on Gun Confiscation. When BHO was priming us for Gun Confiscation our Sherriff wrote the Governor and told him he would not do it, first of all because all his deputies would die attempting it.

But I think traditional folks and rural states in particular need to start pushing back hard. Things like schools and over bearing regulations are a great place to start.
I don't know how you even start.

You can get places if inaction is all that is required, but you're never going to get anywhere on asking inspectors and building contractors to ignore regulations.

The kind of folks that go into code enforcement are not the kind of folks that will lead on this... even in rural washington.

Particularly new construction.

Needed new schools for example are just going to continue to not get built because the overlords require too much flesh from poor people... for the poor's own good of course.

Its better the kids pee outside than we build a school without a bathroom for gender #4367.

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I don't have the answers.
More and more, it looks like Bundyville action is what it will take.
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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by nmoore63 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:20 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:29 pm
Which brings me back to this Green New Deal idea..

Why not just spend that money building charging stations across the United States at every interstate rest stop, and working with Tesla to produce a model that has good quality but without the bells and whistles?

Cities are where these things come into play, and urban drivers likely only need charging stations at rest stops. Imagine being able to drive from New York to LA without ever leaving the interstate system.

We don't live in a tiny European country. Everything is spread out far and wide. Our transportation solutions need to be based on individual vehicles outside the densest portions of the large cities, and inside the cities maybe focus on mass transit like monorails, which run on electricity.

To power the cars and mass transit, built thorium nuclear power plants.

Wouldn't that accomplish what everybody wants?
Moore Furniture has a free charging station.