“More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by DBTrek » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:40 pm

DrYouth wrote:
DBTrek wrote:People that eschew meritocracy generally believe that they can’t compete well (aka they’re average or below), and therefore prefer systems based on demographics, tenure, length of service, amorphous concepts of what’s “fair” etc. - you know, systems where being born and identifying problems/victims is sufficient for success and sometimes victory.
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I would dispute this...

Those that eschew meritocracy fall into two camps... those that fit the bill with what you just said.
And a substantial group of "privileged" men and women that want to helicopter parent those they perceive as weak and vulnerable.

This second group, I would suggest, are by far the more annoying of the two.
Excellent observation. You're right, I forgot the self-loathers - those who can excel but believe doing so victimizes those who cannot, and therefore believe excelling should be penalized and demonized. See Scandanavia, SJW, politboro
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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by DrYouth » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:42 pm

DBTrek wrote:I propose we raise our glasses to the victimized masses who are beaten up daily by a tyrannical philosophy espousing personal responsibility, Protestant work ethic, family values, and the virtue of striving to do ones best.

Poor babies.

Cheers!
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What I have repeated here and on the DCF is that there is a balance...

Between abandoning the losers in the economic cycle... to homelessness, inability to access medical care and massive chronic stress

And creating a cycle of hostile dependence where welfare or unaccountable unionized or government job security become a way of life for generations who feel embittered and powerless or unmotivated to contribute socially.

The problem is that this is an incredibly difficult balance to strike... and few people have the patience, ingenuity or tenacity to even try to strike it.
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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by K@th » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:46 pm

One trip to the grocery store should be plenty of evidence that most people are not really all that smart. (Including the driving part.)
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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by DBTrek » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:46 pm

DrYouth wrote:
DBTrek wrote:I propose we raise our glasses to the victimized masses who are beaten up daily by a tyrannical philosophy espousing personal responsibility, Protestant work ethic, family values, and the virtue of striving to do ones best.

Poor babies.

Cheers!
:lol:
What I have repeated here and on the DCF is that there is a balance...

Between abandoning the losers in the economic cycle... to homelessness, inability to access medical care and massive chronic stress

And creating a cycle of hostile dependence where welfare or unaccountable unionized or government job security become a way of life for generations who feel embittered and powerless or unmotivated to contribute socially.

The problem is that this is an incredibly difficult balance to strike... and few people have the patience, ingenuity or tenacity to even try to strike it.
Perhaps the balance is always shifting due to multiple factors, and therefore the only way equilibrium is ever achieved is through the constant tug or war between the two.
:think:

Or ... maybe Democrats are a bunch of anti-American, pro-illegal, bill of rights hating, meritocracy despising, devils.

Also a distinct possibility.
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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:46 pm

Stupid is not relative. It's just the far left hand side of the IQ distribution.

You could argue it's relative according to race, I suppose.

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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by jediuser598 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:47 pm

nmoore63 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
nmoore63 wrote: The average is pretty stupid.

To register on a forum and such takes initiative.

Weeds out a bottom factor, I would imagine.

The average is not stupid. It's literally average. Stupid is below average. The vast majority of people are clustered around the average IQ for their race. For us, that's around 100.

Initiative is not intelligence. Lots of stupid people have initiative. The prisons are full of guys like that. Lots of intelligent people lack initiative as well.
Normal is average.
Stupid can be relative.
Most people are stupid.

Were it possible, I would still put $5 that we are above the average.

(at least the dcf, not as sure about the mhf - DCF was created around a political and historical podcast that largely catered to more intelligent people. MHF seems to be a bit different of a cat, but I would imagine that gene remains)... but I'd still put the $5 down.

There are lots of things that I would imagine a group of beats the average.
I don't see many here jumping out of the banks in regards to the rivers they're in. Most opinions I see here originate from the individual circumstances. These opinions tend to be a direct result of those circumstances.

Still, given that, and given that most here are average, average people are capable of great things. You don't have to be a genius or above average to change the world or inflict water shed moments upon the world, or in one's local environment. Being a genius isn't a prerequisite for such change.
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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by DBTrek » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:55 pm

Be sure to pick up his forthcoming book “In Praise of Mediocrity”, available on the shelves of every bookstore that made an ok attempt at staying solvent.
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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by jediuser598 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:56 pm

Kath wrote:One trip to the grocery store should be plenty of evidence that most people are not really all that smart. (Including the driving part.)
Again, most people are average.

And those average people built the modern age. Our whole republic is predicated on the belief that putting a nation's direction in the hands of the ordinary man and woman is a good idea. I believe in that good idea. What you propose is what, benevolent dictatorship? That's a terrible idea.
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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by jediuser598 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:57 pm

DBTrek wrote:Be sure to pick up his forthcoming book “In Praise of Mediocrity”, available on the shelves of every bookstore that made an ok attempt at staying solvent.
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I'm not going to slow down my arguments just to accommodate your inability to understand them.
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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by DrYouth » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:58 pm

DBTrek wrote:Perhaps the balance is always shifting due to multiple factors, and therefore the only way equilibrium is ever achieved is through the constant tug or war between the two.
:think:

Or ... maybe Democrats are a bunch of anti-American, pro-illegal, bill of rights hating, meritocracy despising, devils.

Also a distinct possibility.
One of those is definitely more satisfying for the feelz than the other...

I'll give you that!

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