Daniel Shaver shooting

[clubgop]

I am literally shaking. That is murder.

You are literally stupid. You should keep your fucking mouth shut. Your want for heroism on the part of the LVPD produces this kind thing. You shot that dude as much as anyone else. For all you know he was preventing another Las Vegas. He did exactly as you wanted him to do. Exactly what your gun confiscation policies would do. The murderer is you.

[StCapps]

Do Capps or DrYouth skate? I know Capps watches Hockey, but does he play?

I had great hockey sense, but I was never fast enough to fully exploit it, like Smitty, my brother had the wheels. I'm good playmaker and I have a knack for scoring garbage goals in close, but never had the speed.

I used to play with Ben Chairot (plays defense for the Winnipeg Jets) as a kid, when I was like 7, he was 5, and because I was the oldest and consequently best player on the team he practiced with, his dad who was the coach always used to throw him up against me, and have us compete against each other during practice, iron sharpening iron style. Let's just say that the window of me being better than Ben Chairot was quite short lived, but I used to be better than him, lol, though he always was a better skater than me, even at 5, his dad was a dope skating coach. Now he's making $1.4 million a year.

[nmoore63]

For those that see the negligence:

The main question left for me is why the acquittal?

Only 1 out of 50 folks or so that I have shown this to thinks it was ok. Yet 12 out of 12 jurors.

Is it simply that the judicial system is incapable being unbiased with respect to the police force?

(i.e. that the prosecution, defense and judge dealt with the case differently than they do civilian ones)

Also notable, 100% of your military ground operators understand how this could’ve happened, 100% of your outraged armchair quarterbacks do not.

But you got the airplane mechanic or whatever from the AF on your side, which is kind of military ... in a very armchair way.
/shrug

I would counter that their military generalship is EXACTLY the problem.

Rules of engagement for a military occupational force, and that for a civilian police force working for the public are completely different.

Some want the police to risk to public to protect themselves. Others think the police's job is to protect the public.

[Fife]

[Fife]

Baked in the Cake

[Speaker to Animals]

Baked in the Cake

That ignores a lot of the reasons for why we have government in the first place. The reality here is that, if this type of thing continues, cops are going to start getting popped in vigilante killings. We all know this. If that was your son or daughter executed by this little punk psychopath, I wouldn't exactly be surprised if you killed him after he got away with it in the courts. I know if that was my kid, this cop would be dead.

People will start turning to gangs and vigilantes to inflict justice, including against cops. People really need to consider the consequences of what they support more often.

Most likely, we will in fact reach the point where citizens start executing crooked cops. I think any honest person can look at the trends and well see this on the horizon. Once we get to that point, the only way to walk it back is to constrain these psychopathic police departments. This happened about a century ago, so it's not really some novel concept either.

[Otern]

That ignores a lot of the reasons for why we have government in the first place. The reality here is that, if this type of thing continues, cops are going to start getting popped in vigilante killings. We all know this. If that was your son or daughter executed by this little punk psychopath, I wouldn't exactly be surprised if you killed him after he got away with it in the courts. I know if that was my kid, this cop would be dead.

People will start turning to gangs and vigilantes to inflict justice, including against cops. People really need to consider the consequences of what they support more often.

Most likely, we will in fact reach the point where citizens start executing crooked cops. I think any honest person can look at the trends and well see this on the horizon. Once we get to that point, the only way to walk it back is to constrain these psychopathic police departments. This happened about a century ago, so it's not really some novel concept either.

Wasn't that pretty much what happened with that Cristopher Dorner guy a few years ago?

Although he didn't get anyone close to him killed, his "justification" for going after cops, was seeing what his colleagues did on the job.

[Speaker to Animals]

That ignores a lot of the reasons for why we have government in the first place. The reality here is that, if this type of thing continues, cops are going to start getting popped in vigilante killings. We all know this. If that was your son or daughter executed by this little punk psychopath, I wouldn't exactly be surprised if you killed him after he got away with it in the courts. I know if that was my kid, this cop would be dead.

People will start turning to gangs and vigilantes to inflict justice, including against cops. People really need to consider the consequences of what they support more often.

Most likely, we will in fact reach the point where citizens start executing crooked cops. I think any honest person can look at the trends and well see this on the horizon. Once we get to that point, the only way to walk it back is to constrain these psychopathic police departments. This happened about a century ago, so it's not really some novel concept either.

Wasn't that pretty much what happened with that Cristopher Dorner guy a few years ago?

Although he didn't get anyone close to him killed, his "justification" for going after cops, was seeing what his colleagues did on the job.

Yeah, but he went after their families like a fucking cunt.

[Speaker to Animals]

Another thing.. if that happened to me, I am fairly certain my ex-cop step-father would hunt that little shit down and kill him too. I am not saying anything cops don't already know. They all know this little psychopathic cunt deserves to die.

[Smitty-48]

I would counter that their military generalship is EXACTLY the problem.

Rules of engagement for a military occupational force, and that for a civilian police force working for the public are completely different.

Some want the police to risk to public to protect themselves. Others think the police's job is to protect the public.

There's no distinction at the tactical level, there are terrorists in Iraq, there are terrorists in the United States, and the American soldiers in Iraq, who killed 66,000 non combatants, we're trying to protect the public in Iraq as well, the terrorists in Iraq exploited that to their advantage, and the terrorists in the USA do the same.

It's the same Americans, you call them "heroes" when they do it in Iraq, you call them "psychopaths" when they do it in the USA, but it's the same guys, and at the tactical level, the rules of engagement are, in essence, the same.