Google Memo

[The Conservative]

If the SJW's are Americans, and your (hopefully true) assumption of all Americans having shared values is true, then making your hope for a more mutually tolerant America understood, and sympathetic-sounding to as many segments of US society as possible, seems like the thing to do.

We agree, we just have different approaches.

Your approach involves appealing to their sympathies using the loaded terms and associated baggage of the SJWs, which I think is a mistake. Hash would include using their tactics as well.

My approach is to appeal to the shared values of free expression, free thinking, and fair play without ever touching that third rail of identity politics. Let the SJWs attack our widely held American ideals - but don't make the mistake of arguing what misogyny, privilege, or racism is with them. Don't even address their claims. Let them address yours.

Yeah, well with the SJW around, free anything unless it's their way of doing it, isn't going to happen.

[Martin Hash]

If the SJW's are Americans, and your (hopefully true) assumption of all Americans having shared values is true, then making your hope for a more mutually tolerant America understood, and sympathetic-sounding to as many segments of US society as possible, seems like the thing to do.

We agree, we just have different approaches.

Your approach involves appealing to their sympathies using the loaded terms and associated baggage of the SJWs, which I think is a mistake. Hash would include using their tactics as well.

My approach is to appeal to the shared values of free expression, free thinking, and fair play without ever touching that third rail of identity politics. Let the SJWs attack our widely held American ideals - but don't make the mistake of arguing what misogyny, privilege, or racism is with them. Don't even address their claims. Let them address yours.

How's that working out?

[DBTrek]

How's that working out?

It has worked every time it has been tried.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/01/o ... s-own.html
http://ew.com/article/2015/06/08/jerry- ... -campuses/
http://theprincetontory.com/checking-my ... privilege/

How's your theory of "Nuh-uh, YOU ARE!" working out?

[Martin Hash]

How's that working out?

It has worked every time it has been tried.

How's your theory of "Nuh-uh, YOU ARE!" working out?

I see no indication that a decade of capitulation, the "Dan Carlin Technique," has done anything but strengthen their hands. The FIGHT FUCKING BACK strategy, though relatively new, has become a real force resisting them: Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris, Rubin, Adams, etc.

[Speaker to Animals]

They don't share our values, especially not free speech. They just attacked people on multiple occasions for showing up to free speech rallies..

What common values should we appeal to? I like to eat burgers. You do too, right? We can have lunch and talk this over like adults. Oh. You're vegan and I am an animal murderer. Okay.

[DBTrek]

Not seeing any battle creds there, Hash ol' chap.
Lots of talk about DOING, FIGHTING, WARS, and WINNING, but nary a shred of evidence of your tactics making any headway.

So . . . go on with your bad self and keep winning those unknown and invisible battles. I'll fight the culture war with proven tactics from my end, and maybe someday if I ever cross over into internet fantasyland we can join forces and siege the SJW stronghold together.


"Use up the Hash's. The dead cost nothing."

[I just Lurk]

Lets talk numbers. Anyone have trustworthy data that shows how many people beleive SJW ideals vs people that have been somewhat redpilled?

[Speaker to Animals]

Lets talk numbers. Anyone have trustworthy data that shows how many people beleive SJW ideals vs people that have been somewhat redpilled?

How would you even collect data like that?

I can tell you that, in my own life, I am seeing a lot of people getting red pilled in social media and just in my own personal life. For instance, people are lambasting Google on Facebook and the usual SJWs are on lockdown and media silence. They know what this looks like.

[I just Lurk]

Maybe not redpilled but actively vocally against sjw ideals. Im sure its a spectrum, but where does the american population lie on this spectrum?

[I just Lurk]

Lets talk numbers. Anyone have trustworthy data that shows how many people beleive SJW ideals vs people that have been somewhat redpilled?

How would you even collect data like that?

I can tell you that, in my own life, I am seeing a lot of people getting red pilled in social media and just in my own personal life. For instance, people are lambasting Google on Facebook and the usual SJWs are on lockdown and media silence. They know what this looks like.

I too have anectdotal evidence. But as some said here, the denizens of MHF do not represent mainstream views.