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Re: NFL 2020

Post by The Conservative » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:01 am

C-Mag wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:39 am
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Brady's only all-time record is championships and playoff wins - all part of the System. Yards, TDs, completions, etc are all eclipsed by Manning and Brees. Especially when you factor in games played.
I've been saying that for years to massive resistance.

More ammo to coaches vs. players and determining GOAT. Sean Peyton got suspended by the NFL, and Saints suffered, Drew Brees suffered. Tom Brady injured in NE and the Pats still win 11 games and go to the playoffs. Peyton Manning gets injured, the Colts go 1-15.
You can argue semantics all you want, the point is that the statistics show only one way, this is how it is, people may not like it, but Brady was given tools by Belichick to succeed, and made the GOAT by proxy.
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Re: NFL 2020

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:09 am

‘Semantics’ lol
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Re: NFL 2020

Post by TheOneX » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:22 am

Manning is pretty clearly the GOAT, Brady was never in the conversation. Unitas may be the only QB who can challenge Manning for that position.

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Re: NFL 2020

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:45 am

Did you forget about the 49ers?
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Re: NFL 2020

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:58 am

Martin Hash wrote:
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Did you forget about the 49ers?
Lots of rings. No perfect seasons tho..
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Re: NFL 2020

Post by C-Mag » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:00 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:45 am
Did you forget about the 49ers?
Montana was one of the few superbowl QBs to go to another team and win a playoff game. Bill Walsh's West Coast system was killer, and still is when properly used in the NFL. True Greatness when what you develop and use to success can result in success outside your club.
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Re: NFL 2020

Post by C-Mag » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:01 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:58 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:45 am
Did you forget about the 49ers?
Lots of rings. No perfect seasons tho..
'72 Dolphins Greatest team ever............. Bar NONE
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Re: NFL 2020

Post by C-Mag » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:05 am

TheOneX wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:22 am
Manning is pretty clearly the GOAT, Brady was never in the conversation. Unitas may be the only QB who can challenge Manning for that position.
In the modern era, I completely agree.
Now, Brady can still get in the conversation if he can win Superbowls or passing titles with Tampa Brady
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Re: NFL 2020

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:07 am

85 Bears had a lot of flash and more games but that 1 Dolphin year was magical
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Re: NFL 2020

Post by Xenophon » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:20 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:01 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:58 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:45 am
Did you forget about the 49ers?
Lots of rings. No perfect seasons tho..
'72 Dolphins Greatest team ever............. Bar NONE
Is that the one Ray Finkel was on?