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SuburbanFarmer
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by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:53 am
heydaralon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:08 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:55 am
The Conservative wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:34 am
Again, you are talking national average. Not average regional.
national average working salary is 60k+.
I know I have to let you get there on your own, but I'm getting impatient.
You act like less cops is a bad thing. If the pay decreases, then less people will want to be cops. To me, that is great. Maybe then they will have to decide whether it is worth their time to set up speed traps and do weed busts. Or they will have to get rid of some of their ex military toys. Fuck em.
2 different ideas there - Shrink their budgets, or shrink their pay.
I'm perfectly fine with shrinking budgets. I'm sure they waste as much or more as teachers' unions.
Shrinking their pay doesn't help anyone. You get what you pay for, and the standards have been lowered to fill the ranks. That's why we have half a million shitheads with guns, harassing the public.
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by The Conservative » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:05 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:55 am
The Conservative wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:34 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:06 am
You can take it up with Google, I guess. Average starting is 45k.
Again, you are talking national average. Not average regional.
national average working salary is 60k+.
I know I have to let you get there on your own, but I'm getting impatient.
O-ryl...
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by The Conservative » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:08 pm
I mean, you yourself it's what google told you, so it must be true, right?
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SuburbanFarmer
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by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:28 pm
The Conservative wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:05 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:55 am
The Conservative wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:34 am
Again, you are talking national average. Not average regional.
national average working salary is 60k+.
I know I have to let you get there on your own, but I'm getting impatient.
O-ryl...
National Average American Income.png
Funny how that works right?
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by The Conservative » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:40 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:28 pm
The Conservative wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:05 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:55 am
national average working salary is 60k+.
I know I have to let you get there on your own, but I'm getting impatient.
O-ryl...
National Average American Income.png
Funny how that works right?
B7787628-439A-487E-9634-3993E2F345D8.png
Yeah, it is, isn't it?
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by The Conservative » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:42 pm
Point is, you can find information anywhere to say anything you want if you want... but still, if you want to talk national average for a position vs national average, average, then go for it, but you are going to lose this because you aren't being specific enough when it comes to data...
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SuburbanFarmer
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by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:45 pm
The Conservative wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:42 pm
Point is, you can find information anywhere to say anything you want if you want... but still, if you want to talk national average for a position vs national average, average, then go for it, but you are going to lose this because you aren't being specific enough when it comes to data...
Lol cops aren’t paid enough for anyone to desire the job. That was the main point. Your own data and mine seems to back that up as well.
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by heydaralon » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:13 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:53 am
heydaralon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:08 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:55 am
national average working salary is 60k+.
I know I have to let you get there on your own, but I'm getting impatient.
You act like less cops is a bad thing. If the pay decreases, then less people will want to be cops. To me, that is great. Maybe then they will have to decide whether it is worth their time to set up speed traps and do weed busts. Or they will have to get rid of some of their ex military toys. Fuck em.
2 different ideas there - Shrink their budgets, or shrink their pay.
I'm perfectly fine with shrinking budgets. I'm sure they waste as much or more as teachers' unions.
Shrinking their pay doesn't help anyone. You get what you pay for, and the standards have been lowered to fill the ranks. That's why we have half a million shitheads with guns, harassing the public.
I'd be delighted with both.
Maybe Americans should take a bigger say in their own safety and protection. Quite frankly, cops get a lot of stupid bullshit calls. Maybe reducing the number of them via disincentivising them economically would be a good thing for this country. private property can be secured by private security in many cases.
I mean, you own a firearm correct? Is it safe to assume that if someone attempted to break into your house and go near your family it would not end well for them right? So in effect on your property you are a sheriff of sorts already.
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by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:39 pm
heydaralon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:13 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:53 am
heydaralon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:08 am
You act like less cops is a bad thing. If the pay decreases, then less people will want to be cops. To me, that is great. Maybe then they will have to decide whether it is worth their time to set up speed traps and do weed busts. Or they will have to get rid of some of their ex military toys. Fuck em.
2 different ideas there - Shrink their budgets, or shrink their pay.
I'm perfectly fine with shrinking budgets. I'm sure they waste as much or more as teachers' unions.
Shrinking their pay doesn't help anyone. You get what you pay for, and the standards have been lowered to fill the ranks. That's why we have half a million shitheads with guns, harassing the public.
I'd be delighted with both.
Maybe Americans should take a bigger say in their own safety and protection. Quite frankly, cops get a lot of stupid bullshit calls. Maybe reducing the number of them via disincentivising them economically would be a good thing for this country. private property can be secured by private security in many cases.
I mean, you own a firearm correct? Is it safe to assume that if someone attempted to break into your house and go near your family’s it would not end well for them right? So in effect on your property you are a sheriff of sorts already.
Absolutely.
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by pineapplemike » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:12 pm
fuck being a cop even more than fuck the cops, fuck dealing with shitty citizens as a profession