Government has divorced itself from responsibility to protect Citizens

[C-Mag]

The police have no duty to protect citizens...

NO duty...

No duty seems strong.
Perhaps there are limitations on that duty... but no duty... how is that even legally arguable.

That's what I was thinking.

The only logical conclusion as others have stated...……………. they are there to protect the State.
~ ergo they are a Nationalized Government Police Force, bound to carry out the will of the State, not the people.

[heydaralon]

People who are immune to accountability for negligently getting others killed tend to not worry so much about negligence.

Same effect in VA hospitals where employees and beurocrats got away with murdering veterans for bonus checks. No accountability there either. People were outraged and the government promised reform. Years later veterans are still dying and nobody went to prison for it.

Welcome to liberalism.

Are the conditions in the VA hospitals really bad?

[Speaker to Animals]

People who are immune to accountability for negligently getting others killed tend to not worry so much about negligence.

Same effect in VA hospitals where employees and beurocrats got away with murdering veterans for bonus checks. No accountability there either. People were outraged and the government promised reform. Years later veterans are still dying and nobody went to prison for it.

Welcome to liberalism.

Are the conditions in the VA hospitals really bad?

Depends on what is wrong with you. In general, I'd be much better off just saving some money and going to a Mexican hospital. For my illness, I get no meaningful healthcare whatsoever and I cannot afford to pay cash for a real doctor, nor am I allowed to get get even a shitty Obamacare plan that is much better than this shit.

Take all the reasons why government schools are such a dumpster fire and apply that to your healthcare.

[Speaker to Animals]

I will grant you, Mexican hospitals are not really that bad. I am just talking about access to actual healthcare. That is basically my best option.

[brewster]

Don't you think this issue is really about the line between providing security and guaranteeing security? The latter is impossible, but if you allow people to think it is, any failure at all is a legal liability. And that's what the judge is averting. Imagine if everyone who got hurt in a car accident even though it had seatbelts, airbags and crumple zones were allowed to sue because the car failed to protect them?

Now as we know, if the airbag explodes in your face you have a failure to operate properly, and can sue. Did the deputy fail to operate properly?

[C-Mag]

Don't you think this issue is really about the line between providing security and guaranteeing security?

No.

In the Parkland case, it was reasonable to assume that an armed Broward County Police Officer at the site of violence at a school, where he was stationed. React to protect the children in the school. He did not, he hid, took care of his own safety, ensuring he went home at night.

Further, I would submit it is irresponsible of parents to turn their kids over to a school who is not responsible for taking care of the safety of that child. If I turned my kids over to a hobo in the street who seemed like a nice guy and was going to teach my kids things I could have my kids taken away.

[Speaker to Animals]

Don't you think this issue is really about the line between providing security and guaranteeing security?

No.

In the Parkland case, it was reasonable to assume that an armed Broward County Police Officer at the site of violence at a school, where he was stationed. React to protect the children in the school. He did not, he hid, took care of his own safety, ensuring he went home at night.

Further, I would submit it is irresponsible of parents to turn their kids over to a school who is not responsible for taking care of the safety of that child. If I turned my kids over to a hobo in the street who seemed like a nice guy and was going to teach my kids things I could have my kids taken away.

The bigger problem being that the government school employees and sheriff's department created the problem by not enforcing the law with respect to criminal students in order to get the Obama bucks. They had numerous reports of this kid being a risk. They even had criminal activity they covered up.

When the shooting started, they all knew who it was.

[DrYouth]

No.

In the Parkland case, it was reasonable to assume that an armed Broward County Police Officer at the site of violence at a school, where he was stationed. React to protect the children in the school. He did not, he hid, took care of his own safety, ensuring he went home at night.

That is disgraceful.
I wonder why anyone would want to defend this kind of dereliction of duty.
Was he instructed to wait for back up?

[C-Mag]

No.

In the Parkland case, it was reasonable to assume that an armed Broward County Police Officer at the site of violence at a school, where he was stationed. React to protect the children in the school. He did not, he hid, took care of his own safety, ensuring he went home at night.

That is disgraceful.
I wonder why anyone would want to defend this kind of dereliction of duty.
Was he instructed to wait for back up?

It is absolutely is disgraceful.
Worse yet, the Officer in question, watched the shooter get out of the cab, walk to the school, gun case in hand and allowed him to enter the school.

That guy has been found innocent, according the courts he did his job and he'll get a fat pension, literally paid for by the dead kids parents.

[Speaker to Animals]

Yeah, that guy should go into hiding, but those are mostly liberal parents anyway. Do that here and he would definitely need to disappear.